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Re:Dissolving the Fermi Paradox by keiferski on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @07:16AM (#27207045)
The Fermi Paradox always seemed like an incredibly simple-minded idea to me. So much so, that I don't quite understand how someone as intelligent as Fermi could seriously put it forward.

The idea that life in the universe will be comprised of humanoid-esque beings that have the same perception of time as us, or the ability to communicate in a "language", is just a human-centric idea. It's us, projecting our own worldview (which has developed through millions of years of evolution) on to the infinite universe. This is the fundamental problem with positivism; using your current limited sensory knowledge to construct a complete world-picture.

Even life itself is not a neutral word; it mostly just means "carbon-based entities like those on Earth." Perhaps the reason the universe seems so empty is because we only have the ability to see things like ourselves?

Re:Dissolving the Fermi Paradox by marcus_holmes on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @08:15AM (#27207524)
> beings that have the same perception of time as us, or the ability to communicate in a "language", is just a human-centric idea

Well, we do see this behaviour in other animals, and not just humans, or mammals even.

I realise that's not broadening the net much - we share a common ancestor with everything that could be considered "living" on this planet, so ultimately it's all "human-centric" to an extent.

But if there are forms of life that are wildly different, to the point we can't communicate with them or even understand that they're "alive" in any meaningful sense, then that's kinda out of scope ;) The definition of "alien intelligence" only includes things that we would be able to recognise as an alien intelligence. Otherwise we're just talking to the trees, and they're dull conversationalists.

Re:Dissolving the Fermi Paradox by credit_guy on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @07:35AM (#27207176)
I find the Fermi paradox quite shallow too, but for different reasons. Even if a twin sister civilization of humankind existed somewhere on a different planet revolving around a different star, how would we detect it? Space is huge, and hoping to detect some signs of intelligence close to a distant star is like trying to photograph a firefly that flies around a lighthouse, from miles away in the sea, only about 1 trillion times more challenging.

You just need to see what faint a signal we receive form the Voyagers, which are deliberately pointing their antennas at us and are thousands of times closer to us than any star to appreciate how improbable it would be for us to ever detect extraterrestrial communication.

Re:Dissolving the Fermi Paradox by jk7tarYZAQNpTQa on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @07:32AM (#27207156)
> The Fermi Paradox always seemed like an incredibly simple-minded idea to me

I agree, but for different reasons. My favourite way to dissolve the Fermi Paradox is to simple state that the main assumption, i.e. "the lack of evidence of extraterrestrial civilizations", is just wrong :)