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Re:Fierce Nerds by ryandrake on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @12:27PM (#27197067)
I think "shooter down of new ideas" is getting unfairly lumped in with those other actually-bad traits. If there's one thing a lot of "idea guys" and optimistic entrepreneurs tend to lack and need, it's a skeptical partner who keeps them grounded in reality. Someone who is experienced, seen it all, constructively critical. Someone who will say "Wait a minute, this was tried in the '80s, and it won't work. Maybe try this instead." If you lump "people who push-back" in with haters and trolls, you're going to end up surrounded by yes-men.

The tech landscape is littered with failed projects that could have been stopped early if the idea person had a sounding board that keep him/her realistic.

Re:Fierce Nerds by flaubere on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @12:46PM (#27197389)
Absolutely agree. The best and most creative environments I have worked in have been full of people who you could turn to and say "What if we did X?", and they would immediately come up with reasons that X would fail or be impossible. If your idea hadn't been absolutely annihilated after 5 or 10 minutes of this, it was probably pretty decent.
Re:Fierce Nerds by abnry on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @06:07PM (#27201917)
Yes, it is true that new ideas need criticism. However, if one is almost always critical of new ideas, especially ones that push beyond your wheelhouse, then that is a problem because you'll never innovate. PG lumps it with haters and trolls because that's what being a negative person entails. The point is the extremity. There is nothing wrong with being a hater, proportionately, as you can only love something if you hate its opposite.
Re:Fierce Nerds by Rastonbury on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @09:37AM (#27208379)
Sounds like the VC business model!