Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by detaro on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @11:04AM
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So you provide a video of Dave showing the math that you can get only microwatts out of radio waves to debunk something that ... claims to provide power in the microwatts range?
The "charge a phone" thing is obviously bunk, but that's not what's discussed here.
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by gabrielblack on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @11:11AM
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Show me applications in microwatt range to justify the "usable", moreover you need a wifi. Why someone should use that instead of a solar cell, like the one on calculators ?
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by gabrielblack on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @02:20PM
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The title of this article was changed, by the administrators I guess, I think it's good in times where someone think opinions are more relevant then science.
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by sigstoat on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @11:43AM
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this didn't claim to have anything to do with "common user"s. energy harvesting/storage for IoT-type nodes is of huge interest, with lots of work being done on it.
> Dave of EEVBlog has a mission
and i don't think he'd appreciate your "contribution" here to that mission.
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by gabrielblack on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @12:50PM
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I wrote it fast, I rewrote it. My point is that the title is misleading and suggest you can use WIFI radiation as power source to do something useful in the near future in consumer electronics. You simply will not.
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by sigstoat on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @03:48PM
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you're the one who hallucinated "consumer" into all of this. nobody said that. it wasn't in the title. this isn't a consumer electronics forum.
as the abstract of the article points out, it's for energy harvesting applications. which have been demonstrated as being perfectly useful with microwatt collection rates.
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by gabrielblack on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @05:19PM
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The administrators changed the title of this article for a reason. Moreover, that device is intended to be installed very close to the "consumer", that is useful in medical application, for example, where is no advisable to install the battery in a device to be implanted in the body. So you can install the emitter , transmitter, whatever you want call it on the skin. And WIFI is total bullshit. The say "WIFI frequency" aka 2.4 GHZ because as we all known is the deregulated frequency reserved for consumer application. So, IMHO the researcher shouldn't have used that term, is confusing ! From there to say that the experiment involve the problem of powering cordless devices in the sense of electronic gadget is complete misunderstanding of the sense of that research. Man , science is not an opinion.
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by sigstoat on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @05:28PM
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it kind of looks like you're having a rough day. i hope you feel better.
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by gabrielblack on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @05:38PM
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Simply I don't like fake news.
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by giuliomagnifico on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @11:00AM
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Maybe he’s right but his video is from “jan 2010”, maybe in 11 years some improvements are been made… and this research doesn’t talk about “power a smartphone” but a very very small device.
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Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by detaro on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @11:08AM
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And you shouldn't jump to conclusions and shout "alternative science!!!" before looking at least at the order of magnitude discussed.
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by gabrielblack on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @11:15AM
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the title is misleading , you should specify microwatt
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by detaro on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @11:20AM
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A scientific paper should have to specify in the title that it's staying in the (in the field) obvious physical limits of what's possible?
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by gabrielblack on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @11:58AM
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I think titles that are clickbaits should be avoided, titles like "eternal youth found" referring to article with: "eating apple seeds for 10 years you can gain up to 10 microsenconds lifespan".
Re:Spin-torque oscillators for WiFi band transmission and en...
by gabrielblack on Tuesday May 18, 2021 @01:02PM
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errata corrige: ... that is not and will not be possible.
Moreover the power is related to the distance to the wifi source and the presence of an active WIFI obviously doing this kind of solution at least impractical even for ultra low power consumption applications. An Apple tag uses a coin battery and I think will use that solution for a veeeeery long time.