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Re:Apple Music Announces Spatial Audio and Lossless Audio by layer8 on Monday May 17, 2021 @11:20AM (#27184446)
> There have been tests showing we cannot hear the difference between minimally lossy audio (e.g. mp3 320kbps) and lossless.

Indeed, here is such a test: https://gxip23wuyntw2qbzp2f7yfke6y-ac5fdsxevxq4s5y-www-heise...

Even trained listeners using high-end equipment weren’t able to distinguish between CD and 256 kbps MP3 in double-blind tests.

Re:Apple Music Announces Spatial Audio and Lossless Audio by lozf on Monday May 17, 2021 @04:06PM (#27187786)
There's plenty of double blind ABX test results at https://hydrogenaud.io that contradict this, and with some material at even higher bitrates. Mostly it's experienced listeners making useful contributions to codec developers.
Re:Apple Music Announces Spatial Audio and Lossless Audio by joshspankit on Monday May 17, 2021 @08:19PM (#27189934)
The worst thing we ever did for audio quality was focus on short A/B tests. It seems like a decent idea, and works for big differences, but ears are not great at it.

Much better results would be had with 1 month of A, then switching to B.

Re:Apple Music Announces Spatial Audio and Lossless Audio by fomine3 on Monday May 17, 2021 @09:19PM (#27190314)
Any sources?
Re:Apple Music Announces Spatial Audio and Lossless Audio by joshspankit on Monday May 17, 2021 @09:23PM (#27190330)
I can’t find the references I got that from (it was decently respected people in the audiophile world talking about their experience with AB tests over a decade or two), but it’s also true in my own experience.

As well, I feel like the same concept is being used when people listen to the same recording of the same track every time they are trying out new headphones or speakers.