CEO behind Japan’s best-performing stock says his secret is raising salaries

Re:CEO behind Japan’s best-performing stock says his secret ... by nicoburns on Monday May 17, 2021 @07:06AM (#27182138)

> 2: After 3 years they they got promoted to a "manager" level role and stopped doing development. There was no concept of junior developer -> developer -> senior developer progression. If you wanted promotion you went from developer -> manager; it was the same for sysadmins. Their IT and development suffered heavily for it.

Do you have any insight into how this works in Japanese companies that do more traditional engineering? I find it hard to believe that companies like Toyota have no senior engineers.

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Re:CEO behind Japan’s best-performing stock says his secret ... by rurounijones on Monday May 17, 2021 @12:09PM (#27185057)

Physical engineering is a much older discipline and has/had (this is 7 years ago in my company) much more respect as a "real" career socially in corporate life. Makers of physical things tend(ed) to get more respect.

I don't have any special insight into Toyota outside of some anecdotal stories from friends though.

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Re:CEO behind Japan’s best-performing stock says his secret ... by theresAt on Monday May 17, 2021 @07:56AM (#27182456)

I can confirm that Toyota has Senior Engineers (and Nissan).

Although I've seen this title on Teams be given to a 28 year old that didn't seem to be Senior quality, but I'm not much more experienced.

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Re:CEO behind Japan’s best-performing stock says his secret ... by pc86 on Monday May 17, 2021 @07:38AM (#27182337)

They're referring specifically to software engineers.

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Re:CEO behind Japan’s best-performing stock says his secret ... by nicoburns on Monday May 17, 2021 @07:53AM (#27182438)

Yes, but then the question arises: why is software treated differently to other engineering in Japan?

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Re:CEO behind Japan’s best-performing stock says his secret ... by hachari on Monday May 17, 2021 @08:15AM (#27182577)

Because software is more an art than an engineering discipline?

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Re:CEO behind Japan’s best-performing stock says his secret ... by bluGill on Monday May 17, 2021 @09:00AM (#27182894)

Software is - or needs to be - an engineering discipline. It is very much less mature than the others, and the challenges are different too. You wouldn't expect a civil engineer to design a new chip without a lot of training in a completely new discipline.

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