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Re:Universal basic income to be tested in Wales by ssharp on Saturday May 15, 2021 @08:55AM (#27164768)
It's a binary choice right now. You either work or you get the enhanced unemployment benefits.

With the extra $300 / week benefit, in my state (Ohio), the total benefit works out to a little under $20 / hour. Note that this is a sliding scale and earning that much would require you have at least that high of a wage previously.

What you end up seeing is a lot of margin in terms of how much someone is willing to give up in working wages to just collect unemployment. There has also been a lot of interest, and even competition, of workers seeking voluntary layoffs for companies that need some staff reduction.

I've heard a number of arguments using this as evidence that UBI will be a huge economic negative because it will reduce the workforce but I'm not sure how this can really be a valid proxy since the unemployment benefits are completely dependent on you not working. It seems pretty reasonable that if people could collect some basic income and also work for an even higher wage, they would.

Re:Universal basic income to be tested in Wales by domino24 on Saturday May 15, 2021 @09:17AM (#27164924)
There are a few instances of being able to collect both right now. I've heard of some people who manage manual labor type companies (painters, tree trimmers, landscapers, etc) that offer to pay laborers cash (which would be in addition to the unemployment benefits) and they cannot get workers. It's like the unemployment is a high enough amount that they'd rather collect just that and not work to earn more. Perhaps there is a magical amount which would convince people to collect benefits and still work to earn additional money.
Re:Universal basic income to be tested in Wales by sokoloff on Saturday May 15, 2021 @09:18AM (#27164934)
Or perhaps manual laborers are more ethical than you give them credit for in the post above and choose not to lie and cheat to double-dip unemployment while actually working.
Re:Universal basic income to be tested in Wales by domino24 on Saturday May 15, 2021 @10:47AM (#27165664)
This might be the case for some individuals, but in the examples I have been given, this was not the issue.