Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile...
by albatruss on Friday May 14, 2021 @10:47PM
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Technical goals are means to moral ends, so I think it's great that the stuff that matters, the big picture, the point of it all, is getting more discussion nowadays.
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile...
by Dracophoenix on Saturday May 15, 2021 @01:28AM
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What's the moral outcome of an iPhone? What makes it more moral to all the other phones out there? Is Swift more moral than Javascript? Is Objective-C more moral than plain old C? How do you measure morality?
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile...
by albatruss on Saturday May 15, 2021 @04:59AM
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I'm guessing your questions are facetious, but in case you seriously care, the nature of morality has been the subject of intensive research for thousands of years, including today. It predates even the concept of measurement, in fact.
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile...
by Dracophoenix on Saturday May 15, 2021 @12:39PM
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A bit of both facetiousness and seriousness. I bring those questions up because your claim of there being a moral end to technical goals is vague and lacking in substance. Technology has no more of moral charge than atoms or stars do. In almost all cases, morality or lack thereof is incidental to the technology itself, not a direct consequence. If morality was the end of technological goal, then it could be measured. That morality predates measurement is irrelevant. Astronomy and agriculture predate human civilization by thousands of years and yet humanity today has been able to measure interstellar distances and complicated logistics of food production. If morality has yet to be discerned through an adequate metric, that is a failure of morality itself.
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile...
by shkkmo on Saturday May 15, 2021 @02:06PM
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I don't see how you can possibly justify that view. That atoms and stars are not human creations, technology is.
Denying the existence of things because you can't measure them objectively is lunacy that if you follow to it's logical conclusion will take you to nihilism and epistemic surrender.
The entire corporate hierarchy is people of questionable morals. Companies go out of their way to hire lawyers too - while theoretically one can be a highly moral lawyer, in practice we can tell from the results that a very big chunk of the ones in corporations are moral-less negotiators.
One of the biggest benefits of modern corporations is we can put aside fiery debates on politics, morals and religions and work together on highly specific technical goals.