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Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by tmpz22 on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:14PM (#27160658)
Forget politics, this man was a red pill ideologue who, among other things, would brag about the number of women he's impregnated [1]. If this is the hill anyone wants to die on - holy cow.

[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5b4tqe/i_am_antonio_g...

Edit:

* added citation

* changed "the hill you want" to "the hill anyone wants"

Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by hn8788 on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:27PM (#27160735)
It doesn't sound like he's bragging about it, he's mentioning shitty things he's done and how it's common among people in SV. I had to look it up, but calling yourself a "wastrel" doesn't sound like bragging.

n.One who wastes, especially one who wastes money; a profligate

n.An idler or a loafer.

n.Anything cast away as spoiled in the making, or bad; waste; refuse.

Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by pseudalopex on Saturday May 15, 2021 @07:46AM (#27164379)
Do you think calling yourself a bad boy is self criticism?

He wants people to see him as a scoundrel with a heart of gold. Nothing I've seen from him has been regretful or contrite.

Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by Swenrekcah on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:29PM (#27160747)
I’m kind of torn on this. I don’t know the guy or of his existence until now, but from his own into to that AMA he’s the kind of person that brags about having no loyalty or integrity so I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect any in return from his employer.

However this must all have been clear from day 1 so this can only be a PR move on Apple’s behalf which is not a great look either.

There are no winners in this story, only losers. Including society which got thrown yet another polarising piece of social media drama.

Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by roenxi on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:36PM (#27160799)
> If this is the hill anyone wants to die on - holy cow

Which hill do you think is appropriate? The line has to be drawn at least a standard deviation below average behaviour or there will be a lot of unemployed people. Especially with the context that nearly everyone has socially unacceptable views, most just usually try not to talk about them.

I'm sure it'll come out in the conversation, but none of the commentors are rushing to accuse him of doing anything. It takes 2 to get a woman pregnant.

Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by tmpz22 on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:56PM (#27160931)
This is not a debate about "cancel culture". This is about a awful person who should not be hired into a leadership role where he is directly responsible for people he has treated horrifically in the past. And, like most narcissists, the evidence is in his own public statements and actions - not applied by the media or any outside group.
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by roenxi on Friday May 14, 2021 @08:35PM (#27161154)
> ...people he has treated horrifically in the past...

That is a bit of an escalation from being an ideologue. What are you actually unhappy about here? What do you think he's done?

> This is about a awful person who should not be hired into a leadership role...

Well again, being an awful person and being unqualified for leadership are different things and need to be argued separately.

There are lots of great business leaders who were awful people. Eg, Henry Ford was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle by the Nazis. It isn't like the ranks of business have or ever will be made up of exclusively nice or praiseworthy people.

Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by taylodl on Friday May 14, 2021 @09:08PM (#27161323)
I’m tired of this trope. It excuses boorish behavior and ignores all the business leaders who haven’t acted like asses.
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by sonograph on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:22PM (#27160710)
> this man was a red pill ideologue

What does a 'red pill ideologue' mean? Yes, I've seen the Matrix but I don't understand

But wow, that Reddit post is shocking

Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by tmpz22 on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:32PM (#27160770)
Pretty much end-game toxic masculinity - men blaming women for not wanting to sleep with them and promoting "pick-up artist" strategies like negging, gas-lighting, and other despicable behavior in an attempt to get laid. It grew into a fairly large subreddit.
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by GuB-42 on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:29PM (#27160755)
It is a movement glorifying the "alpha male" idea. The strongest man rules and get all the women.

It is called "red pill" because of the idea that it is the real truth of this world.

Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by mindcrime on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:36PM (#27160795)
There's a sub-culture of men who identify as "The Red Pill" who harbor some, uh, non-mainstream, ideological beliefs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/

Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by MikeUt on Friday May 14, 2021 @09:20PM (#27161402)
There's a documentary about one part of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Pill

Or you could look at the most extreme examples the other commenters are trying to present as the norm.

Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by baby on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:34PM (#27160787)
Oh boy, be prepared to rage. Just check r/redpill
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by neom on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:35PM (#27160788)
Not easy watching, interrogation of a young man who took it to the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGFWovUuWak
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by SpicyLemonZest on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:23PM (#27160715)
The goal, presumably, is to address the problem before people start feeling obligated to die on hills. This guy's made some very offensive comments, so I feel no pressure to defend him personally, but we've got to have a better process for deciding what's socially acceptable than "sometimes the eye of Twitter descends on you and you become unemployable".
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by gruez on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:26PM (#27160731)
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Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by asdfasgasdgasdg on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:31PM (#27160763)
I'm on mobile right now, so I can't verify. But I don't think ctrl-f matches text in posts that are hidden due to low score. I would look in some of those.
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by carreau on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:37PM (#27160802)
Search just for "preg" or read at maximum 3 sentences from linked posts. "pregnant" is the 60th word.
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by pseudalopex on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:29PM (#27160743)
Try pregnant.
Re:"I’ve kept silent on the Apple situation; they broke sile... by skavi on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:29PM (#27160752)
the OP?