Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta...
by Denvercoder9 on Friday May 14, 2021 @12:37PM
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Oil does require infrastructure. What you put in your car is several steps removed from what is pumped out of the ground.
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Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta...
by skynet-9000 on Friday May 14, 2021 @12:45PM
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Nor can you store gasoline for long unless you stabilize it (and even then), and certainly not safely in most residences. Classic car owners run into this issue, as do the diesel tanks for generators in datacenters (diesel is much more stable than gasoline)
Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta...
by jkubicek on Friday May 14, 2021 @12:42PM
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I think the parent's point was that if oil infrastructure is completely disrupted, consumers won't even be affected for a few days and the short-term consequences will be somewhat minor (some percentage of drivers won't be able to drive, deliveries may be delayed).
If a hospital is shut down, then people will start dying immediately. The consequences are much more direct and severe.
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by dbt00 on Friday May 14, 2021 @12:49PM
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I think this is simplistic and overlooks logistics and flexibility.
If a hospital closes, patients can be moved. If there's no gas, patients can't get to any hospital.
Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta...
by Karunamon on Friday May 14, 2021 @01:20PM
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At least in the cities I've lived in, there tends to be a lot of internetworking in the local hospitals. If my local hospital, CRMC, were to be hit by ransomware or otherwise taken down it's likely that a good chunk of the city's health infra would be out or at least at risk too. Not to mention the damage an attacker could do to the data stored in an EHR system like Epic.
Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta...
by jkubicek on Friday May 14, 2021 @06:15PM
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My point (which wasn't well made, admittedly) is that a closed hospital has immediate and material effects. Disrupted petroleum infrastructure isn't going to affect consumers for days.
Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta...
by pixl97 on Friday May 14, 2021 @01:35PM
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What if you attack the hospital in the middle of, lets say a covid outbreak, where no excess capacity is available. Now you've likely caused a significant number of deaths.
Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta...
by skeeter2020 on Friday May 14, 2021 @01:16PM
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hospitals without IT don't just kill all their patients and shut down. They slow down and loose capacity and capability while the realtively low-tech business of doctoring continues.
Re:DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin sta...
by 3GuardLineups on Friday May 14, 2021 @12:54PM
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lolwut? this is insane. If oil infrastructure is completely disrupted it would be beyond catastrophic. Oil is completely foundational to our economy