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Re:Ads are impersonating government websites in Google resul... by jeffbee on Friday May 14, 2021 @12:43AM (#27150754)
Just so we're clear, there are no "sponsored results" on Google. There are results, and there are ads. It matters because if you lose the distinction you will lose the ability to remember what "sponsored results" were. On Yahoo! search, all of the results were paid. You paid more for a higher position. This dubious service was provided by Overture, and every search engine except Google was a customer of Overture's technology. The service that Google provides is specifically not paid results placement.
Re:Ads are impersonating government websites in Google resul... by acdha on Friday May 14, 2021 @07:37AM (#27153124)
If you search for “employee identification number” the top of the page will be an ad which differs from the first search result (which requires 2 full screen vertical scrolls to reach on an iPhone 11) only for the presence of “ad” in 6px type instead of the favicon and replacing the tiny 3 dot menu with an i icon.

Now, I’m sure a Google PR person would insist that this tiny bit of text is a clear and unambiguous visual distinction but they’d be lying to you hoping that you are unfamiliar with eye-tracking research showing how little things like that matter, not to mention the way Google has trained users not to notice by using the smallest icon sizes and progressively removing as many visual indicators over the years as they think they can get away with.

The fact that people at Google feel the need to claim that this is a meaningful distinction tells you that it isn’t. Nobody at Google got defensive about this back when they didn’t offer advertisers a way to get the top result because it was completely obvious that ads were separate.

Re:Ads are impersonating government websites in Google resul... by lstamour on Friday May 14, 2021 @12:50AM (#27150792)
Absolutely. Google's making ads look like search results [1], but let's bring up an example from the early-to-mid 2000s [2] because that's extra relevant here when today's relevant search engines put ads confusingly at the top of your search results. The ad isn't a "sponsored result" but it's fair to say the results are sponsored (and confusingly so).

1. https://techcrunch.com/2020/01/23/squint-and-youll-click-it/

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Media_Native

Re:Ads are impersonating government websites in Google resul... by jeffbee on Friday May 14, 2021 @12:53AM (#27150818)
Regarding #1, did you ever notice how the "dark pattern" that article was about got reverted shortly after that, except not on DuckDuckGo which still contains that "dark pattern"?
Re:Ads are impersonating government websites in Google resul... by lstamour on Friday May 14, 2021 @12:57AM (#27150855)
I heard about it being reverted, but I have seen far too many people, myself included, click the links at the top thinking they're the first result when they're not. This article on ads offering gov services has some great examples in it.

Remember when Google highlighted ads in different colours? Like the garish pink and green from way back in 2001: https://edge45.co.uk/blog/google-adwords-evolution-timeline/ (scroll down to see it near the bottom)

Look at how they intentionally tried to differentiate the ad from the rest of the search results: large swaths of white space separate the top sponsored ads from the rest of the search results even in a time when monitors were smaller, with clearly different link and background colours, etc.

I wonder if anybody's built a browser plugin to provide Google search results pages that look like they used to back in 2001? ;-)

Re:Ads are impersonating government websites in Google resul... by sellyme on Friday May 14, 2021 @02:54AM (#27151526)
From that article:

> It’s hard to imagine what Google looked like without ads

...I'm not too sure on that one, Colin. Not a whole lot of imagination required.

Re:Ads are impersonating government websites in Google resul... by detaro on Friday May 14, 2021 @01:00AM (#27150878)
What exactly was reverted? Google search results look like the screenshot in that article for me.
Re:Ads are impersonating government websites in Google resul... by lstamour on Friday May 14, 2021 @01:04AM (#27150898)
I believe it was the placement of the favicon in regular search results that was reverted because it appeared in the same place as the word "Ad" in the ad.
Re:Ads are impersonating government websites in Google resul... by detaro on Friday May 14, 2021 @01:08AM (#27150926)
Hah, my tired brain didn't even clock that consistently wasn't there for the actual results. Which I guess also says something about it being a clear distinction...

(DDG seems to do it the other way around: results have favicons, ads have nothing in that spot. anyways, adblocker back on)

Re:Ads are impersonating government websites in Google resul... by ALittleLight on Friday May 14, 2021 @02:21AM (#27151311)
I just searched for "employee identification number" on my mobile. The first full screen was ads - identified only by the tiny letters "Ad" in the upper left. How is making your ads show up first and look almost indistinguishable from results anything other than sponsored results? Google may not call it that, but I think you'd need to be a current or former Google employee to not understand what it is.