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Re:Pentagon surveilling Americans without a warrant, Senator... by splithalf on Thursday May 13, 2021 @03:59PM (#27146639)
Would you prefer no laws?

Seems we benefit from them no?

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Re:Pentagon surveilling Americans without a warrant, Senator... by tclancy on Thursday May 13, 2021 @04:16PM (#27146836)
Not everyone + you is "we". Lots of people are hurt by bad laws; your appreciation for your government's laws tends to correlate to how much money or clout you have. Mainly because it allows you to ignore them.
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Re:Pentagon surveilling Americans without a warrant, Senator... by Slow_Hand on Thursday May 13, 2021 @04:16PM (#27146841)
Parent post isn’t arguing against the existence of laws. They’re illustrating that laws have limits and can be overcome by entities that wield enough power.
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Re:Pentagon surveilling Americans without a warrant, Senator... by splithalf on Thursday May 13, 2021 @05:22PM (#27147644)
Look at the post above yours. Yes, some want to make the case that laws on the whole are essentially oppressive. Whether of not foucault made that case precisely, or whatever, is totally irrelevant if it’s what most people actual mean, viz that laws are the tools by which the powerless are oppressed.
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Re:Pentagon surveilling Americans without a warrant, Senator... by kmonsen on Thursday May 13, 2021 @05:08PM (#27147493)
That is one of the largest straw men I have ever seen.
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Re:Pentagon surveilling Americans without a warrant, Senator... by babesh on Sunday May 16, 2021 @09:50PM (#27179260)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Size_and_scope_...

The US government was hacking Google by tapping cables between its data centers with direct access to Google accounts. The US government was paying tech companies for data on their customers. The US government had Verizon turn over phone records on millions of their customers daily. The US government used other countries spy agencies to spy on US citizens.

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Re:Pentagon surveilling Americans without a warrant, Senator... by ectopod on Thursday May 13, 2021 @07:08PM (#27148632)
At that scale it's more likely a wicker man.
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