Re:The Pin-Pen Merger (2020)
by Macha on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:13PM
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It lists the south of ireland (though it's unclear if the author actually just means "not Northern Ireland" by this, as I'd consider it a "western" feature to have thick accents, as does his source) as a possible influence on this. Of the examples given:
* Pin/Pen - Totally distinct
* Marry/Merry/Mary - Mary ~= Merry, totally distinct from Marry.
* Been/Bin - I never thought about this, but even I say "How've you bin", rather than "How've you been"
* Again/Agin - It's a stereotypical elderly farmer accent, but I think even current elderly farmers I know don't have it, so maybe it belongs to a couple generations before that, or even more rural areas.
Some of the videos of elderly Irish people the article mentioned:
https://youtu.be/GT2OVUY2gZY?t=6 - "Shearing sheep, dipping sheep, roasting? sheep, correcting them down off the mountain" - I mean, there's definitely less distinction between how he says sheep with ship, compared to how I would do that or the interviewer does.
* Pin/Pen - Totally distinct * Marry/Merry/Mary - Mary ~= Merry, totally distinct from Marry. * Been/Bin - I never thought about this, but even I say "How've you bin", rather than "How've you been" * Again/Agin - It's a stereotypical elderly farmer accent, but I think even current elderly farmers I know don't have it, so maybe it belongs to a couple generations before that, or even more rural areas.
Some of the videos of elderly Irish people the article mentioned:
https://youtu.be/GT2OVUY2gZY?t=6 - "Shearing sheep, dipping sheep, roasting? sheep, correcting them down off the mountain" - I mean, there's definitely less distinction between how he says sheep with ship, compared to how I would do that or the interviewer does.