Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by nrp on Thursday May 13, 2021 @11:54AM (#27143562)

We dogfood regularly on Ubuntu LTS and Fedora, and we've been working with the team at Fedora (and have provided them a pre-release unit). In general, the only issue we foresee in the near term is that the fingerprint reader likely won't work out of the box in Linux. There is a driver though, and we're working on making that setup as easy as possible until it is in mainline.

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by Abishek_Muthian on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:24PM (#27143997)

Can you please ensure that you support Linux Vendor Firmware Service (LVFS)[1] i.e ensure your vendors support it.

Edit: Bit more rant about LVFS goodness

Even my Logitech 2.4 Ghz receiver gets regular updates on LVFS, can't remember it happening even with official Logitech SW on Mac/Windows. LVFS fixes the embedded controller security/bugs mess. A functional laptop like Framework when released with first class support for Linux features like LVFS can add more value to the customer.

[1]https://fwupd.org/

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by nrp on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:30PM (#27144119)

Definitely! We're set up as a vendor there and will be using it for updates in the future: https://fwupd.org/lvfs/vendors/#framework

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by Abishek_Muthian on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:33PM (#27144164)

Yay! Added some more rant about LVFS to my original comment.

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by xur17 on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:53PM (#27144406)

Do you plan to sell the prebuilt systems with linux preinstalled (or with no OS)? I have no desire for my money to go to Microsoft, and no desire for Windows, but the prebuilt model is intriguing to me.

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by nrp on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:56PM (#27144447)

Preloading a Linux distro is something we may do in the future. We've made the DIY Edition super easy to set up though for folks who don't want Windows in the meantime.

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by enriquto on Thursday May 13, 2021 @01:20PM (#27144707)

preinstalled linux is a hard requirement for many users, even if they want to reinstall it themselves. It gives an assurance that CPU throttling, suspension, hibernation, will work correctly. Otherwise it feels like a lottery. Of course a linux install is easy and will always work; but will it work correctly? If you offer preinstalled linuxes we can be sure it does.

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by wutbrodo on Thursday May 13, 2021 @04:10PM (#27146769)

> It gives an assurance that CPU throttling, suspension, hibernation, will work correctly.

For what it's worth, I had two XPS 13s in a row and the one that came with Ubuntu pre-installed had _way_ worse hardware compatibility problems.

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by ryanlol on Thursday May 13, 2021 @02:38PM (#27145632)

> If you offer preinstalled linuxes we can be sure it does.

With that one specific preinstalled kernel image.

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by heavyset_go on Thursday May 13, 2021 @04:22PM (#27146905)

I'd buy this in a heartbeat if I could get a guarantee that it would work well with Linux. Having Linux pre-installed is one way to signal confidence that it works well with Linux.

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by yjftsjthsd-h on Thursday May 13, 2021 @04:49PM (#27147261)

It sounds like they're internally running Linux on these, which also seems like a pretty good sign?

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by heavyset_go on Thursday May 13, 2021 @04:53PM (#27147308)

Doesn't mean that all of the peripherals work ideally, or that power management works ideally.

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by sldksk on Thursday May 13, 2021 @11:16PM (#27150291)

I will be on your wait list for the pro the moment I can order it with Linux preinstalled.

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Re:Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999 by TomSwirly on Thursday May 13, 2021 @03:00PM (#27145933)

We? You helped with this? You guys rock!

Now there's a repairable, upgradable choice, it's going to be hard to get me to do anything else.

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