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Re:A brief history of people losing their minds in Antarctica by neatze on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:30AM (#27138423)
On a single usb stick we have interactive games and all human knowledge available, I think mars explorers will be just fine.
Re:A brief history of people losing their minds in Antarctica by codetrotter on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:58AM (#27138572)
I think the COVID-19 pandemic has shown a lot of us that actual physical isolation from others can be much more detrimental to our mental well-being than we thought, even for those of us who were already used to being on our own for prolonged periods of time.
Re:A brief history of people losing their minds in Antarctica by neatze on Thursday May 13, 2021 @01:04AM (#27138608)
> I think the COVID-19 pandemic has shown a lot of us that actual physical isolation from others can be much more detrimental to our mental well-being than we thought.

Can you site source for this claim, I do not see any detrimental mental health, at least in terms of people are willingness to go back to work from office.

Re:A brief history of people losing their minds in Antarctica by yeahr4579 on Thursday May 13, 2021 @02:12AM (#27138984)
> I do not see any detrimental mental health, at least in terms of people are willingness to go back to work from office.

Mind giving me a source for this? I personally feel much worse during the pandemic and most people I know do as well. If your doing better I’m happy for you but not everyone is the same.

Re:A brief history of people losing their minds in Antarctica by argvargc on Thursday May 13, 2021 @03:38AM (#27139421)
Mental health:

1 in 5 adults developed mental disorders -

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/science/1-in-5-adu...

1 in 4 young adults suicidal -

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/mental-healt...

Effects of isolation on elderly -

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25697700/

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18590724.sedation-manage...

Effects of isolation on the future health of children -

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/...

https://www.unicef.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Unicef-...

Mental illness in children rising due to lockdowns -

https://newschannel20.com/news/local/hospitals-see-high-rate...

Half of young adults showing signs of depression -

https://fee.org/articles/harvard-researchers-nearly-half-of-...

The mental health of students -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-55105044

Suicidal thoughts greater in those under restrictions and unchanged in those without any -

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016517812...

Prevalence of depression before and after in the US -

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle...

Cases of depression in the US have tripled -

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/us-cases-of-depres...

US Census shows 48% of Wa adults have depression -

https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2020/demo/hhp/hhp15.html#...

Lockdowns pose great threat to mental health -

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/27/covid-poses-...

Suicides:

https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-19-coronavirus-rates-duri...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/dealing-with-a-lot...

Suicides among black people spiked during lockdowns -

https://www.baltimoresun.com/health/bs-hs-black-suicides-pan...

Suicides up sharply in Toronto -

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/toronto/article-suici...

Trends in suicide during the pandemic -

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4352

Canadians in quarantine twice as likely to have suicidal thoughts -

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/quarantine-m...

Military suicides up 20% -

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-09-27/milita...

Suicides up among children -

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/09/24/cook-childrens-alarming-...

Re:A brief history of people losing their minds in Antarctica by pmoriarty on Thursday May 13, 2021 @01:00AM (#27138580)
Not everyone's a gamer, and even those that are get bored with games after a while.

There are even fewer readers than gamers, and even those that are get bored with reading after a while.

Many people want to go outside and do something every now and then... but on the way to/from Mars there's nowhere to go, and every moment you're in space you know that on the other side of thin shield of metal lies death.

Sure, people could still entertain/distract themselves and each other.. and they'll have to. But it won't necessarily be easy to do in the long term.. especially if things start going wrong, if tempers flare up, or if serious incompatibilities are discovered among the crew.

Re:A brief history of people losing their minds in Antarctica by ericbarrett on Thursday May 13, 2021 @01:52AM (#27138884)
> Many people want to go outside and do something every now and then... but on the way to/from Mars there's nowhere to go, and every moment you're in space you know that on the other side of thin shield of metal lies death.

Not much changes when you get there, too. I think at best we will have something like McMurdo Station, for researchers on 2-3 year stints. Maybe less, since the round-trip is long and cosmic rays remain a significant health concern even when you are on Mars itself—no appreciable magnetic field and no ozone layer.

Even when you're there, excursions will be limited and planned well in advance, probably not much different from spacewalks today. The rest of the time you'll be in a tiny underground bunker.

Under current projections, anybody who took a trip to Mars with a ~1 year stay would exceed their lifetime radiation allowance, and would never be able to fly again. (Assuming a solar flare doesn't kill you mid-trip. Unlikely, we think, but possible.) If you're the first astronaut, or even the first dozen, this might be worth it. After that, though...? I'm sure there would be no shortage of volunteers, but we won't just need bodies, we'll need talented scientists at the top of their game who are physically and mentally healthy enough to make the trip in the first place.

Re:A brief history of people losing their minds in Antarctica by pmoriarty on Thursday May 13, 2021 @02:00AM (#27138931)
"we'll need talented scientists at the top of their game who are physically and mentally healthy enough to make the trip in the first place."

From what I understand, the science can be done better with robots and probes anyway. So I'm not sure scientists are even necessary.

But they will need dedicated, motivated, fit, and mentally stable people willing to risk and possibly give up their lives.

Re:A brief history of people losing their minds in Antarctica by CountDrewku on Thursday May 13, 2021 @11:32AM (#27143266)
People that sit around playing games and using the internet all day are certainly not healthy mentally or physically. There are multiple studies showing this.
Re:A brief history of people losing their minds in Antarctica by hooande on Thursday May 13, 2021 @03:43AM (#27139451)
They had usb sticks full of data and games in Antartica in 2018, when the one scientist stabbed the other. The negative effects of isolation and lack of communication with a larger society are too complex to be solved with books or games.