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Re:Germany bans Facebook from handling WhatsApp data over pr... by Siira on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @09:47AM (#27130262)
> You’ve to do to them what Apple App Store is doing to them.

What them? The Apple/Google duopoly is fucking everybody. There was a recent post on HN about Panic shutting down its iOS text editor because of AppStore restrictions.

The ad move by Apple is the ultimate example; They shut down third-party tracking, while their own tracking machine continues uninterrupted. Do you think if China requested your data from Apple, they wouldn’t give in silently? Dream on.

Re:Germany bans Facebook from handling WhatsApp data over pr... by Spivak on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @11:22AM (#27131381)
I mean I would actually expect if any government where Apple does significant business demanded my user data they would give it silently. Like we're talking about entities whose authority is ultimately backed by violence. Nobody should be obligated to put themselves in harms way for anyone else. It is of course very noble if they do but not something that can be expected.
Re:Germany bans Facebook from handling WhatsApp data over pr... by Siira on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @05:01PM (#27135107)
They might decide ridiculing the incompetent government is worth the PR, e.g., their shows with the US gov. Of course, you're correct that as soon as those govs show some teeth, Apple would change course very fast.

Ultimately, if the biggest monopolies of violence can get your data by just requesting it, you won't gain much from having "privacy." It's better to focus on economics, and use custom hardware and software if you want privacy.

Re:Germany bans Facebook from handling WhatsApp data over pr... by MikeUt on Thursday May 13, 2021 @06:37AM (#27140615)
> They might decide ridiculing the incompetent government is worth the PR, e.g., their shows with the US gov.

I hope you are not referring to judicial checks on executive power as "incompetence".