Re:When Stockton gave people cash, they got jobs
by andi999 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @01:45PM
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To me a big problem with UBI is who is eligible. Yes, I know it is called 'universal' but this doesnt mean everybody. Like should a person living in Europe be able to claim UBI from the US? Well, this example is silly, but just to show that 'universal' wont mean 'everybody'. I believe for UBI the devil is really in the detail.
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Re:When Stockton gave people cash, they got jobs
by standardUser on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @01:49PM
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The devil is always in the details, but there are vastly more details to manage with our current amalgamation of overlapping safety net systems spread across the local, state and national level. One of a UBI's strongest selling points is that it's comparatively very simple.
Re:When Stockton gave people cash, they got jobs
by clort on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @01:51PM
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if it is the US govt giving UBI to its citizens, then they should give it to all their citizens, no matter where they are?
The US govt, for reference, taxes the income of US citizens wherever they are in the world..
Re:When Stockton gave people cash, they got jobs
by andi999 on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @01:58PM
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Just citizen, or also green card holder? What about illegal immigrants? (And in the original provocative statement I meant EU citizens living in EU, should they get UBI from US? (just to debunk the often heard 'its for everyone'))
Re:When Stockton gave people cash, they got jobs
by clort on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @02:29PM
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Well I don't know about green card holders or illegal immigrants. perhaps there would be a qualifying period for new members of the club in any case? If it is a US benefit then why would they give it to somebody elses citizens?
If you want to talk about promoting a world government then yeah lets do it and forget about borders?