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Re:Nothing Has Made Me Feel More American Than Going to Jail by ultrastable on Monday May 10, 2021 @04:45PM (#27110716)
you're completely right about the barbarism inherent to the whole retributive mindset, but prisons aren't even effective for the more humane goals you're talking about - they're much more likely to push someone further outside the bounds of legal society than rehabilitate, & the recedivism/rearrest statistics are pretty surprising too
Re:Nothing Has Made Me Feel More American Than Going to Jail by eigenspace on Monday May 10, 2021 @05:35PM (#27111162)
Sure, but I think we might be just getting into a semantics game with how we define prison.

I just think that 'prisons' should become whatever sort of institution is best at rehabilitating criminals while still minimizing the amount of harm they can do to society during the rehabilitation process.

Re:Nothing Has Made Me Feel More American Than Going to Jail by ultrastable on Wednesday May 12, 2021 @05:24AM (#27128351)
not trying to be pedantic, sorry. I'm just pointing out that there are a lot of people who do awful things but are surprisingly unlikely to reoffend & so whose post-offence imprisonment doesn't actually make society any safer.