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Re:Why are modern 50mm lenses so damned complicated? by lmilcin on Monday May 10, 2021 @02:47PM (#27109412)
Half of reason I even bother with full frame is wide open.

Any smartphone these days can give perfectly good sharp photos. I lug the beast around to get shots you can't get with a smartphone.

Re:Why are modern 50mm lenses so damned complicated? by foldr on Monday May 10, 2021 @03:43PM (#27110019)
Shooting wide open is fashionable because it’s a sign of expensive gear. Once artificial bokeh is perfected I expect people will stop obsessing over blurry backgrounds.
Re:Why are modern 50mm lenses so damned complicated? by adrr on Monday May 10, 2021 @07:03PM (#27111958)
Maybe for outdoor daylight situations. Any indoor or night time shot, fast lens wide open means getting shots that aren’t possible on a phone. Night mode on my phone is fine for still subjects but humans like to move. I guess if they keep adding more cameras to phones, they’ll get enough light to construct a usable image without having a 1 second exposure.
Re:Why are modern 50mm lenses so damned complicated? by velosol on Monday May 10, 2021 @04:15PM (#27110355)
I can't speak for lmilcin, but wide open is also critical in low light to minimize ISO noise or to even have a stop or 2 down from the widest to have a little width in the focal plane while still capturing action.

Agreed on the shots where you're at 1.4 and pushing the limits of your shutter speed.

Re:Why are modern 50mm lenses so damned complicated? by rodgerd on Monday May 10, 2021 @06:22PM (#27111610)
It's the new high dynamic range - splattered everywhere in a gatekeepery effort to substitute "I have spent a lot on camera equipment" for "I know how to compose photographs in an interesting way".
Re:Why are modern 50mm lenses so damned complicated? by jeromenerf on Monday May 10, 2021 @04:43PM (#27110685)
I hope not. My Nikkor 135mm dc is quadrupled in value since I bought it :)

DC stands for “defocus control", as distorting the bokeh forward of backward.

Re:Why are modern 50mm lenses so damned complicated? by skhr0680 on Monday May 10, 2021 @08:42PM (#27112805)
I picked up an old stock 105mm last year, case included. I love how it makes people look, it's a great bridge between vintage and modern lenses.

How do you feel abbout the DC function? I've found R settings don't really focus correctly with AF, so it's best to focus manually. Is that the case with the 135mm version too?