These companies are viewed as exemplars of operating at scale. If they're failing at this, there's a deeper problem that requires a second look. Saying these companies "suck organizationally" isn't productive or helpful.

My main point was SOA comes with its own set of issues when you implement it at large scale. You're talking around me instead of listening to what I'm trying to communicate. I'll stop engaging with you since it's not productive.

I mean we can just talk openly about the companies - like are we talking Google? Because I don't know anyone who thinks Google is organizationally functional.