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Re:New technology has enabled cyber-crime on an industrial s... by arcticbull on Sunday May 09, 2021 @04:24PM (#27099399)
This sounds a lot like a victim blaming to justify the existence of a technology which intentionally seeks to make transactions like these easier.
Re:New technology has enabled cyber-crime on an industrial s... by loa_in_ on Sunday May 09, 2021 @04:29PM (#27099444)
The victims' only mistake was the way they underfunded their IT security. It's not a small mistake though, and the financial losses of the victim itself can in certain cases easily be dwarfed by losses of people who got their data exposed.
Re:New technology has enabled cyber-crime on an industrial s... by meowface on Sunday May 09, 2021 @11:49PM (#27102502)
It's more than that, though. Many of the modern ransomware gangs are filled with talented, dedicated attackers who specifically target certain companies.

You could invest a ton into security, have a competent security team, follow best practices, set up lots of security appliances and software, have lots of analysts monitoring and responding to alerts and actively hunting for threats and writing custom SIEM rules etc., and there could still be one small mistake that lets a sophisticated attacker in.

As the adage goes, the defenders have to win every time and the attackers only have to win once. A group of sufficiently motivated, dedicated, resourceful, and talented attackers who face zero risk of any sort of repercussions will very likely get in if they put enough time and effort into it.

This isn't just old-school ransomware that merely tries to infect as many computers as possible in general and just happens to land on a corporate machine and automatically spreads from there. These are trained, experienced red teams manually targeting companies and everyone who works at them. In many cases the victims do indeed have poor security, but a company doesn't necessarily need to have poor security to fall victim to ransomware.

Re:New technology has enabled cyber-crime on an industrial s... by matheusmoreira on Sunday May 09, 2021 @08:27PM (#27101266)
There is no need to justify it. Cybercrime is a relatively small price to pay compared to the value provided by private cryptocurrencies. Their usage by criminals is actually a great way to see if they really work.
Re:New technology has enabled cyber-crime on an industrial s... by arcticbull on Sunday May 09, 2021 @10:58PM (#27102237)
> Cybercrime is a relatively small price to pay compared to the value provided by private cryptocurrencies.

Which is what exactly? Speculation? And...

Re:New technology has enabled cyber-crime on an industrial s... by matheusmoreira on Monday May 10, 2021 @02:14AM (#27103220)

  1. Store any amount of money easily and securely
  2. Transact quickly, easily, cheaply, globally, limitlessly
  3. Nobody knows your balance
  4. Nobody knows transaction amounts, senders, receivers, history
  5. Nobody knows about anything you do
  6. Nobody can randomly freeze your assets
  7. Nobody can move those coins without the key
Have you ever had your money taken away from you? My country suffered through hyperinflation in the 90s, the government got desperate and just froze the bank accounts of everybody. The amount of disruption this caused is legendary.

It doesn't matter how much energy it consumes or how much crime it enables. If it allows us to escape government stupidity it's more than worth it.

Re:New technology has enabled cyber-crime on an industrial s... by arcticbull on Monday May 10, 2021 @11:10AM (#27106764)
I mean roughly each of those points doesn’t apply to every major crypto. But also no, I’m properly invested. You get to escape government stupidity into the open arms of criminals and scammers. Out of the frying pan and into the fire so to say [1]

It’s like replacing the local police with the Sicilians. They even have a comparable customer service policy, i.e. SFYL.

[1] https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/2021.02.17_-_settlemen...

Re:New technology has enabled cyber-crime on an industrial s... by matheusmoreira on Monday May 10, 2021 @07:04PM (#27111968)
> roughly each of those points doesn’t apply to every major crypto

Monero currently has all of these properties.

> You get to escape government stupidity into the open arms of criminals and scammers.

This is does not justify sacrificing everybody's financial privacy and independence. The police should track the criminals via other methods. They shouldn't be able to surveil everybody's transactions at all times or freeze people's accounts over the slightest suspicions until they prove their innocence. It's better to let some criminals escape than suffer these injustices.

Re:New technology has enabled cyber-crime on an industrial s... by arcticbull on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @04:52PM (#27123369)
> This is does not justify sacrificing everybody's financial privacy and independence.

Agree to disagree haha. Financial records are private unless revealed to authorities in a 4th-amendment compliant probable-caused based warrant. Seems like the right place to draw the line.

> The police should track the criminals via other methods.

Why? I mean it's pretty easy with basically every crypto other than Monero, and Monero is basically Narco-dollars, which are unlikely to find any acceptance.

> They shouldn't be able to surveil everybody's transactions at all times or freeze people's accounts over the slightest suspicions until they prove their innocence.

You mean... probable cause? And offer due process to resolve? Some would argue that's the foundation of the criminal justice system.

> It's better to let some criminals escape than suffer these injustices.

You're just subbing one kind of criminal for another.

Re:New technology has enabled cyber-crime on an industrial s... by thedevelopnik on Monday May 10, 2021 @12:08AM (#27102594)
Destruction of this really annoying planet we live on!