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Re:Elon Musk, master promoter by doggosphere on Sunday May 09, 2021 @11:44AM (#27096912)
Nobody was working on self landing rockets. Nobody was working on electric cars.

We'd be waiting another 10 years for what we have today.

Re:Elon Musk, master promoter by andy_jensen on Sunday May 09, 2021 @02:53PM (#27098607)
"Nobody was working on self landing rockets"

Thats just plain wrong

https://youtu.be/39cjZTCay24

Re:Elon Musk, master promoter by grey-area on Sunday May 09, 2021 @12:46PM (#27097454)
Musk bought Tesla from someone else, he didn't found it (though he now calls himself founder).
Re:Elon Musk, master promoter by marvin on Sunday May 09, 2021 @12:58PM (#27097577)
You figure Tesla would be the in the world's top 10 companies by market cap today if Musk hadn't invested and run it, and the company was still run my Marc Tarpenning and Martin Eberhard?

I mean...it's hard to prove a negative, but just to mention one of the tens of critical moments along the way, I have a hard time seeing how someone less ruthless than Musk would have saved them from bankruptcy in 2008.

Another obvious juncture was the whole thing about building a battery factory costing more than the company's market cap a few years prior, doubling the world's battery production capacity...

Re:Elon Musk, master promoter by grey-area on Sunday May 09, 2021 @02:06PM (#27098167)
No, I don’t, but I also don’t really consider him a founder, nor was he the first to have any interest in electric cars (as the OP intimated).
Re:Elon Musk, master promoter by Gwypaas on Sunday May 09, 2021 @01:46PM (#27097970)
This is simply a myth being propagated to detract Musk's early involvement in Tesla. It simply would not be the Tesla we know today without his involvement.

Musk simply led all funding rounds up to series C, was employee number 4, chairman of the board and took an extremely active role in the company before becoming the CEO. He and the first five employees are "co-founders" agreed to in court by Eberhard which is the one of the guys you are talking about.

A lawsuit settlement agreed to by Eberhard and Tesla in September 2009 allows all five (Eberhard, Tarpenning, Wright, Musk and Straubel) to call themselves co-founders.[11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tesla,_Inc.#The_beg...

Re:Elon Musk, master promoter by grey-area on Sunday May 09, 2021 @02:05PM (#27098158)
Thanks for pointing out he had to go to court and buy out the original founders to be called a co-founder.

I absolutely agree he has been instrumental to Tesla’s success since he joined as employee number 4 and then took over, but he didn’t start the company and the statement that nobody was interested in or working on electric cars is factually untrue though nobody else managed to bring them to the mass market before Musk.

Re:Elon Musk, master promoter by hooande on Sunday May 09, 2021 @12:16PM (#27097171)
"nobody was working on electric cars"?
Re:Elon Musk, master promoter by doggosphere on Monday May 10, 2021 @03:21PM (#27109727)
Where was Ford, Toyota, GM's progress on electric cars? Where are all the other startups that started at the same time as Tesla?

Do you think Tesla would be where it's at today if Musk didn't get involved? How many times did Tesla almost die?

Re:Elon Musk, master promoter by hooande on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @01:51AM (#27114664)
over 100,000 Toyota Prius were sold in 2016. Tesla is likely to be the top company in the electric vehicle space for quite some time. but to act like they invented the market and no one else was working on it is just silly. it's like saying that Bill Gates invented computers
Re:Elon Musk, master promoter by doggosphere on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @01:23PM (#27120789)
I'm not being literal when I say "nobody was working on electric cars".

If you need to me to clarify it: the scale and rate of progress in EV was severely accelerated by Tesla. ICE auto companies had no incentive to develop electric. The space was unprofitable, had many technical challenges.