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Re:Apple tries to get Epic to admit there's porn on its store by elliekelly on Saturday May 08, 2021 @11:18AM (#27087903)
It seems Epic put more energy into the commercial announcing the trial than they put into the actual trial. I’m rooting for them but I really don’t know what they’re doing or how they’ve lost control of the narrative so badly so early on. Maybe they underestimated Goliath’s PR machine? I don’t envy their legal team trying to regroup this weekend.
Re:Apple tries to get Epic to admit there's porn on its store by JumpCrisscross on Saturday May 08, 2021 @11:45AM (#27088169)
It's a sure-to-lose lawsuit launched in the hopes of motivating a Congress strongly influenced by an anti-tech, anti-corporate progressive insurgency in the ruling party and, oh yeah, a global pandemic. I appreciate Epic's position, and would support it if it had been litigated through the legislature. But as it is, it's a flagrant waste of our courts' time, a public resource.
Re:Apple tries to get Epic to admit there's porn on its store by shephardjhon on Saturday May 08, 2021 @12:05PM (#27088342)
Its not anti-tech or anti-corpprate, its anti-monopoly. Remember its two huge corporations fighting this battle, Epic isn't some innocent tiny startup but in this case they have a point that Apple and Google have too much control and the fight has already resulted in smaller developers getting more share of their sales on the two app stores.
Re:Apple tries to get Epic to admit there's porn on its store by speeder on Saturday May 08, 2021 @12:44PM (#27088716)
Epic is certainly not anti-monopoly.

And Apple is actually trashing them in court because of that.

For example Apple lawyer asked if Epic would have accepted a deal where Apple maintained the current ecosystem but let Epic have an exception... Epic said yes.

At another point Apple asked difference between them, Xbox, Switch, etc..., Epic said that because consoles are sold at loss they having a monopoly is fine... so that is a bad argument if you are trying to prove you are anti-monopoly.

And this goes on and on...

Then there is the fact Epic paid 1 billion USD to developers not sell in other stores, including in some cases to break contracts to do so (for example kickstarted games, that promised Steam delivery, and then told the people that paid them that it would be Epic only and there would be no refunds).

Re:Apple tries to get Epic to admit there's porn on its store by aranelsurion on Saturday May 08, 2021 @07:39PM (#27091818)
Sounds like OP meant this case is anti-monopoly, not Epic itself.
Re:Apple tries to get Epic to admit there's porn on its store by hajile on Sunday May 09, 2021 @01:38PM (#27097912)
Epic doesn’t have to convince the jury that they’re innocent or even not despicable. They only need to convince the jury that Apple is doing bad things.
Re:Apple tries to get Epic to admit there's porn on its store by JumpCrisscross on Saturday May 08, 2021 @12:34PM (#27088611)
> Its not anti-tech or anti-corpprate, its anti-monopoly

Sorry for being unclear, I was referring to the current mood in Congress. Epic has tailwinds in there being a desire to reign in Big Tech. It has headwinds in being, itself, a tech company. That balance is, on the net, favourable to Epic. But marginally favourable isn’t a great position to be in when it comes to policy in a crowded legislative session.

Re:Apple tries to get Epic to admit there's porn on its store by scarface74 on Saturday May 08, 2021 @12:58PM (#27088833)
Epic’s “position” that came out in trial was that they wanted a special deal from Apple. They are fighting for no one other than themselves.