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Re:The Pinecone Overlay Network by cpr on Friday May 07, 2021 @01:37PM (#27078567)
Is there some ELI5 overview for this intriguing work?
Re:The Pinecone Overlay Network by thelucky41 on Friday May 07, 2021 @03:48PM (#27080142)
Peer-to-peer routing is challenging because you aren't sure where to send your data to reach your peer, even if you know their cryptographic public key and address. It's hard because the network physically is splayed out in a big hub-and-spoke tree. A node might know who it's physical neighbors are, but does not necessarily know much about there locations of any of its peers.

If a router receives a peer-to-peer packet, where should it send this packet? With pinecone, this is answered by looking at a cheatsheet, where each node is assigned a specific virtual neighbor that they are in charge of finding among the physical routing tree. This cheatsheet is generated by connecting neighbors who are ordered by their cryptographic public keys.

As peers find routes to their neighbors, they are also discovering routes to other nodes along the chain, helping speed up the entire process of deciding where to send packets.

Re:The Pinecone Overlay Network by Arathorn on Friday May 07, 2021 @04:03PM (#27080280)
This is a great explanation. The only missing bit is that the nodes also find routes based on the spanning tree calculated over the network as well as hunting their neighbours on the snake.
Re:The Pinecone Overlay Network by anticensor on Friday May 07, 2021 @04:35PM (#27080576)
Matrix desparately needs a superstabilising server-to-server link establishment and breakup algorithm.
Re:The Pinecone Overlay Network by cpr on Friday May 14, 2021 @11:25AM (#27155267)
Thanks, very helpful!
Re:The Pinecone Overlay Network by kickscondor on Friday May 07, 2021 @02:12PM (#27078923)
Perhaps look here (at the 7:52 mark): https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/matrix_pinecones/