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Re:Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018) by lambdaba on Friday May 07, 2021 @08:48AM (#27075275)
Here's a riddle for you: if seed oils were not toxic, why are mice given seed oils as low as 4-5% of calories in order to cause cancer in the presence of other carcinogens? They don't get cancer with the carcinogens alone, they have to add the seed oils to trigger the cancers.
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Re:Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018) by knuthsat on Friday May 07, 2021 @08:59AM (#27075361)
There are similar studies on meat/Neu5Gc being combined with fibre to reduce the toxicity - more carcinogens present the less fibre there is.

There are similar studies on casein/whey.

These studies do not make meat, milk, cheese or seed oils inherently unhealthy or show that you can't have them as a part of a healthy diet.

edit: doing a quick Google Scholar search I can find a bunch of studies that show positive outcomes after regular consumption of flaxseed (rich in omega 3s) or pumpkin seed (rich in omega 6) oils. These studies do not make these oils healthier.

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Re:Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018) by lambdaba on Friday May 07, 2021 @11:10AM (#27076781)
Flax has alpha linolenic acid, which in some people (I am one of them) can't efficiently be converted into omega-3
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Re:Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018) by knuthsat on Friday May 07, 2021 @11:24AM (#27076914)
20g of flaxseed oil (180kcal) contains a bunch of ALA, pick a massively low conversion ration to DHA/EPA of 0.5% or 1% or whatever, and you'll see that you'll get very near if not over the recommended daily amounts of 250-750mg.
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Re:Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018) by lambdaba on Friday May 07, 2021 @11:43AM (#27077098)
Maybe, I don't have the exact figure either but it is known that a specific mutation (which I don't have) is needed for efficient conversion. This is telling that at some rather recent point (agriculture) humans started consuming less animal fats.
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