Re:Opposition to net neutrality was faked, New York says
by ihumanable on Thursday May 06, 2021 @08:09PM
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If they could have killed and captured enough Democrats that the Republicans could have won the floor vote to not certify the election results, we would be in wildly uncharted territory.
You'd have a Congress and President both declaring that a free and fair election was a "Steal" and they would have the votes, the military, and the levers of power.
The people rioting weren't going to overthrow the country and take over, they were a useful tool for trump to overthrow the election and install himself as President for 4 more years.
Re:Opposition to net neutrality was faked, New York says
by JoeAltmaier on Thursday May 06, 2021 @05:11PM
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Its hard to mischaracterize an attempt to overthrow the government. Whether it was efficiently executed is irrelevant - it was treasonable activity.
Re:Opposition to net neutrality was faked, New York says
by shkkmo on Thursday May 06, 2021 @06:22PM
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The degree to which our institutions worked and did not work in preventing the overthrow of the government is absolutely relevant. If you misrepresent how close something came to success, you dramatically reduce your abilty to learn from the event.
Re:Opposition to net neutrality was faked, New York says
by gabereiser on Thursday May 06, 2021 @08:26PM
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I think people are focusing on the outcome rather than the crime. It's irrelevant whether they were successful, it goes into criminality when a criminal act is actually acted upon, not whether it was successful. It's not illegal to sell hammers, but when you pull out that hammer to hit someone over the head with it, it becomes a crime. Whether or not you actually connected with that other party's head doesn't make the attempt any less criminal.
Re:Opposition to net neutrality was faked, New York says
by shkkmo on Thursday May 06, 2021 @10:27PM
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How is that relevant to what I said? I have made no arguments or statements one way or the other about the criminality. I am trying to call out factually incorrect fear mongering about how close the US government ce to being overthrown.
It was a signifant event and one that is well worth being strongly concerned about. That does not justify spreading hyperbolic FUD. In my view the seriousness of this event makes it more important that we bring our full rationality to bear when discissing it and try our best to avoid obfuscating the problems it revealed with the usual partisan games of BS and distortion.