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Re:Why People Feel Like Victims by WalterBright on Thursday May 06, 2021 @04:02PM (#27068421)
The trouble with being a victim is there's nothing to be done about it. Deciding to not being a victim is empowering, as it means you can do something about it.
Re:Why People Feel Like Victims by shirakawasuna on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:17PM (#27070851)
This makes no sense at all. If you have been or are being victimized, recognizing it is the first step to taking an action to counter it.

If someone steals from your car, nobody plays philosophical games about whether you were victimized and understanding that you were is the very first step to even understanding the situation and then adopting habits of not leaving expensive stuff in your car, investing in locks, taking a focus to the causes of crime, etc...

Re:Why People Feel Like Victims by tdeck on Thursday May 06, 2021 @04:35PM (#27068750)
How does being a victim imply that nothing can be done? It seems to me that the opposite could be the case.

For example: If I'm the victim of a crime, the first step to reporting the crime is acknowledging that fact. Certain categories of criminals (con artists and sexual abusers) rely on the fact that victims are often reluctant to acknowledge their victimhood, even to themselves. This allows those individuals' behavior to go unreported so they can prey on more people.

Re:Why People Feel Like Victims by WalterBright on Thursday May 06, 2021 @06:28PM (#27069773)
> How does being a victim imply that nothing can be done?

Because if you had no role in the matter, you couldn't have prevented it.

Re:Why People Feel Like Victims by harimau777 on Thursday May 06, 2021 @08:56PM (#27070722)
The fact that something in the past couldn't have been prevented doesn't mean that there's nothing to be done in the present.

There's also the fact that often you couldn't have prevented it.

Re:Why People Feel Like Victims by tailrecursion on Friday May 07, 2021 @02:46AM (#27073019)
It can be made less likely. It's the victim mindset that makes the victim believe it can't be prevented, which in turn prevents the person in question from making changes that will prevent problems in the future.

Chicago cops frisking you all the time -- wear skin tight pants.

Car accident -- use defensive driving techniques.

Being shot and killed for sleeping at a Wendy's -- don't resist arrest.

Wife divorced you, took your house and kids -- don't get married, OR, learn to discriminate.

Sexist manager won't promote you -- join a company run by females, OR, start your own company.

Pandemic -- move to the country.

On the other hand, if you prefer not to solve your problems yourself, you can say "Why should I change, when other people are the ones doing something wrong", fold your arms, and wait for a man to solve your problem for you.

Re:Why People Feel Like Victims by WalterBright on Thursday May 06, 2021 @10:46PM (#27071467)
Being a victim is what reaction a person takes to events. If they believe that nothing could have been done, then they believe they are powerless.
Re:Why People Feel Like Victims by juve935 on Thursday May 06, 2021 @11:22PM (#27071775)
This doesn't make sense - often times we are powerless. No amount of "not being a victim" is going to bring back your husband who died in a car accident, or a soldier who died in war, nor is being a victim either.
Re:Why People Feel Like Victims by learnstats2 on Friday May 07, 2021 @05:22AM (#27073992)
Do you mean being a victim, or being helpless?

I am a victim of a crime - I need to take the required action to get legal retribution.

Saying “I am not a victim” does nothing to help me.

Re:Why People Feel Like Victims by rayiner on Thursday May 06, 2021 @04:49PM (#27068883)
I don't know I agree with you there are no victims in America, but I strongly agree with you it's pointless to dwell on as an individual matter.
Re:Why People Feel Like Victims by WalterBright on Thursday May 06, 2021 @04:10PM (#27068511)
At the moment, I'm going out for a run because running seems to stave off old age dementia. Ah'll be back later.