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Re:LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online by boomboomsubban on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:21PM (#27058821)
>it also had an inherent grounding in bare reality, compared to the narratively embellished one of mainstream media

I disagree. It will only show one side of the bare reality, as the actions taken by more organized militaries will prevent their footage from ending up there. An Al Qaeda execution could end up on there, but the video of the execution of someone like Bin Laden rarely would.

Re:LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online by an_opabinia on Thursday May 06, 2021 @12:18AM (#27059131)
LiveLeak was essentially ISIS propaganda.
Re:LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online by boomboomsubban on Thursday May 06, 2021 @12:46AM (#27059249)
Not really. Though they often did want a method to spread their videos, the West lacked any of the real context behind such videos turning it into outrage fueled Western propaganda. I expect the videos sparked far more Islamaphobia than radicalization.
Re:LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online by Biganon on Thursday May 06, 2021 @03:22AM (#27060109)
Creating or fuelling islamophobia has always been one of ISIS's tactics
Re:LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online by DyslexicAtheist on Thursday May 06, 2021 @04:29AM (#27060504)
I don't see that. That's like saying radical evangelicals have always wanted to increase hatred against Christianity. The relation between the 2 is that one acts as a recruiting ground for the other.

Radical evangelicals like radical Islam think they are the "pure form" of their religion.

Re:LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online by boomboomsubban on Thursday May 06, 2021 @03:38AM (#27060200)
I don't see how you can make that claim. The only possible benefit I can think of for them would be that more bigotry towards Muslims might sway more people towards their point if view, but they were already in close contact with a population thoroughly abused by the West in Iraq.
Re:LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online by DyslexicAtheist on Thursday May 06, 2021 @03:52AM (#27060281)
I remember crying watching 9/11 happen via live stream. My daughter was just about to be born a couple of days later.

Then a war with pretense based on fake evidence. Then Libya, Iraq destroyed, another one in Syria raging until today. Muslims marginalized and placed on no-fly lists. Prisoners in Abu Ghraib tortured for the lulz. Drones operated from the comfort of a container in Utah by fat sweaty men eating donuts and killing civilians in Pakistan. A sign on the door of the container that reads "You are now leaving the United States of America" for improved cognitive dissonance. When they killed Bin Laden without a trial they gave a glimpse of their ugly soul to the world. The uniformed murderer who killed the "terrorist" (that the CIA had created decades earlier) still brags on twitter for having shot Osama in the face and it's not even hate speech according to the platform. It's OK to call for the killing of a "bad person" as long as we all agree they belong to the outgroup. The various administrations that until today operate black sites around the world (including Europe) proof the West is no better then Al Qaeda, or Russia or China. We just have better propaganda. The difference between a Russian, a Chinese and an American? The Russian and the Chinese have no illusion that their government is up to horrible shit and can't be trusted.

The foreign policy of US and EU is one disaster after another. Today they could all cash in at the "good-vibe bank" by NOT opposing waiving of patent protections for Covid19 vaccine. Instead of a war on <imaginary_enemy>, a war on Covid? What they do instead: https://twitter.com/astroehlein/status/1389822242134110209