Re:Major Depressive Disorders Have an Enormous Economic Impact
by Nav_Panel on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:16PM
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We don't need to invoke "capitalism" to discuss the psychic distress involved in repetitive work schedules and, more generally, the expectations surrounding labor and wages, i.e. the modern economic system. The term contains too much, although I do personally agree with many critiques of capitalism.
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Re:Major Depressive Disorders Have an Enormous Economic Impact
by MattGaiser on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:34PM
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Because life as a hunter gatherer just a few days away from starvation at any point was less stressful? Generations upon generations of farming was less repetitive?
Re:Major Depressive Disorders Have an Enormous Economic Impact
by Nav_Panel on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:37PM
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I'm assuming you misread me, because I'm saying something to the effect of "reducing work hours and providing flexibility might be helpful for people, but the present social equilibria prevent that from happening, and mental health provides an excuse to avoid changing aspects of the economic system that have issues", and not some primitivist whatever.
Also, stress alone isn't the issue here at all.
Re:Major Depressive Disorders Have an Enormous Economic Impact
by monocasa on Thursday May 06, 2021 @02:02AM
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> Generations upon generations of farming was less repetitive?
It was. Medieval serfs worked less than us.
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_w...
Re:Major Depressive Disorders Have an Enormous Economic Impact
by Toks on Thursday May 06, 2021 @12:09AM
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I don't think it's repetitive work or expectations surrounding labour that cause psychic distress, but worker alienation, which is one of my main gripe with capitalism.
I might be wrong here, but I feel that we can endure a repetitive work schedule and high expectations if we feel connected to the work and the fruit of our labour.
Re:Major Depressive Disorders Have an Enormous Economic Impact
by throwawayboise on Thursday May 06, 2021 @12:37AM
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Feeling connected to work and the fruit of our labor is largely a matter of attitude. I've mopped floors for minimum wage and still took satisfaction in doing it well.
Re:Major Depressive Disorders Have an Enormous Economic Impact
by sudosysgen on Thursday May 06, 2021 @01:01AM
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There is a matter of attitude and a matter of reality. Deluding yourself into feeling connected into meaningless work that will benefit no one but a few is just that, delusion.
Besides, worker alienation and alienation in general is way more than just taking satisfaction in doing things well, it's actually feeling connected to what you are doing and it's purpose, and feeling connected to the social relationships that enable your life instead of seeing them as impersonal exchanges of commodity on the market.
Re:Major Depressive Disorders Have an Enormous Economic Impact
by throwawayboise on Thursday May 06, 2021 @01:52AM
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Strikes me that a lot of this is what people used to get from religion. I'm not religious myself, so definitely not trying to push it, but it does seem that there's a correlation between the rise in incidence of depression, feelings of disconnectedness, and lack of a sense if purpose that goes along with the decline in participation in organized religion.