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Re:The handshake emoji is more complicated than you might think by jakobnissen on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @08:19AM (#27048945)
The problem is that it's not about human language. If it was about human language, the consortium would give a shit about Bengali speakers. It's about the sensibilities of a small, particular group of privileged people, in a particular time at a particular place, who consider their weird priorities to be universal.

Let's not forget that adding all this complexity to Unicode has a real burden for people who implement Unicode. In practice, the consortium has to prioritize what symbols to support. So, in practice, it's less "embracing all variants of human expression", and more "the ability to communicate in your native language doesn't matter as much as the gender identity of this police emoji".

Re:The handshake emoji is more complicated than you might think by 542458 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @08:27AM (#27049009)
What’s wrong with the Bengali character set? A Google search doesn’t show any discussion on limitations here. And while power and privilege do inevitably play an unintended role in prioritization, Unicode successfully encodes several entirely dead languages - so it’s not like everything not relevant to English speakers has fallen by the wayside.

And while you’re correct that emojii do require some amount of UTC resources, it’s worth noting that most of that work is done by a special subcommittee to not distract from the mainline work of other languages, and that emojii have brought new attention and new volunteers to TUC - so I’m not sure how significant the impact of adding emojii to their workload really is.

Re:The handshake emoji is more complicated than you might think by treebog on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @09:07AM (#27049356)
Blog post and interesting HN discussion on Bengali/Unicode https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9219162

I would summarize the key issues here, but they are complex and I don’t feel qualified to do them justice.

Re:The handshake emoji is more complicated than you might think by dijit on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @09:04AM (#27049333)
The issues with Bengali writing are a large portion of TFA, I would highly recommend reading submitted articles before commenting.
Re:The handshake emoji is more complicated than you might think by lupire on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @09:19AM (#27049458)
You appear to be confusing the submitted article with the article linked from a comment, with was put in context (and I'm being extremely charitable to the Bengali article OP with this language) here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9219162
Re:The handshake emoji is more complicated than you might think by 542458 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @09:16AM (#27049436)
I apologize, I missed your link. But please don’t assume hostility for me missing a URL - I was clearly interested enough in the issue to do a Google search.

In any case, please see the comments on the HN post (linked by a sibling comment) for that. The issue is in fact wickedly complex, and it’s not clear (even among Bengali speakers) that this is a deficiency in Unicode (vs a deficiency in text entry and rendering software).

Re:The handshake emoji is more complicated than you might think by stdbrouw on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @08:33AM (#27049070)
> Let's not forget that adding all this complexity to Unicode has a real burden for people who implement Unicode.

We're talking about emoji for crying out loud, the entire idea is frivolous (and that's fine!)