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Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by arp242 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:32AM (#27046198)
> Perhaps it didn't "start" with "off-color ribbing" but the usage of 'jokes' (see: Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines) to desensitize people to hatred towards the Tutsis is well documented.

And they were made in the context of a general propaganda/hate campaign. The medium is the same, the context couldn't be more different.

It's the context that matters 100%, not the medium (jokes in this case) in and of themselves.

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Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by arp242 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:56AM (#27046349)
Oh come on, that is so not what I said. If only jokes were made the genocide wouldn't have happened. The jokes weren't the cause of anything, they were just a symptom/result of a widespread hate campaign that certainly didn't start with jokes.

Context and details matter a lot. A joke about "niggaz in da hood" by a white person is very inappropriate and insensitive, but it's not the same as some joke where the punchline is that "niggaz too lazy to work" or whatnot. The second does express hatred, the first doesn't, in spite of being misguided.

This is essentially the same argument as {comics,music,TV,films,games} causes {Satanism,murder,drug use,what-have-you}.

Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by wmoxam on Thursday May 06, 2021 @01:07AM (#27059359)
> If only jokes were made the genocide wouldn't have happened

Well no shit. But it did happen, and there's plenty of proof that 'jokes' contributed to the culture that made genocide possible

> A joke about "niggaz in da hood" by a white person is very inappropriate and insensitive, but it's not the same as some joke where the punchline is that "niggaz too lazy to work" or whatnot

You really don't think that the first desensitizes some to the point that they think the 2nd is acceptable?? This is what the pyramid is about.

> This is essentially the same argument as {comics,music,TV,films,games} causes {Satanism,murder,drug use,what-have-you}.

No it's not.

Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by arp242 on Thursday May 06, 2021 @02:42AM (#27059891)
> You really don't think that the first desensitizes some to the point that they think the 2nd is acceptable??

No, why should it? It seems to me that the difference is extremely clear for everyone. Is there any good argument beyond "but it obviously does!" – or even better, research – which demonstrates that it does?

You are just refuting what I'm saying without any actual arguments.

Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by wmoxam on Friday May 07, 2021 @03:07PM (#27079690)
You made claims without evidence first pal
Re:How Basecamp Blew Up by Ygg2 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @01:25AM (#27046514)
Spilling gasoline onto a floor isn't a problem. Spilling gasoline into a raging inferno is.