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Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by nradov on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @06:35PM (#27043718)
Exposure to phthalates reduces testosterone in both men and women, and thus lowers sex drive. Phthalates are widely used chemicals, primarily for softening plastic.

https://news.umich.edu/reduced-testosterone-tied-to-chemical...

That's not the only cause. Increased obesity levels also play a role. Probably other factors.

Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by krrrh on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @07:07PM (#27043977)
Widely and freely available HD porn too. It’s easier than ever for people to use it as a substitute, and it reduces the drive to seduce. It contributes to a downward spiral of satisficing.

Edit: Getting downvotes from folks in denial. I’m not making this stuff up, college students rarely used to have ED, now porn-induced ED is quite common. Many such cases! [0]

[0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5039517/

Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by monort on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @01:31AM (#27046546)
From review you linked. Clearly this means research is conflicted on this topic.

Viewing Sexual Stimuli Associated with Greater Sexual Responsiveness, Not Erectile Dysfunction https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26185674

Is Pornography Use Associated with Sexual Difficulties and Dysfunctions among Younger Heterosexual Men https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25816904/

Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by ClumsyPilot on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @07:40PM (#27044252)
I thought porn was supposed to make people into sexual deviants, which is it?
Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by proxyon on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @08:42PM (#27044699)
It reduces the novelty of real sex and thus the arousal for it. Lots of studies on this.
Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by jjeaff on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:02AM (#27046044)
A common side effect of porn addiction is that the addict requires more and more extreme situations and stimulus in order to get aroused. So I would say that is sort of turning one into a sexual deviant.
Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by WalnutBoat on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @01:24AM (#27046505)
Would love to see any sort of actual studies on this, because I'm fairly confident it's false.

The argument at face value is a slippery slope, like "sugar triggers dopamine response in the brain in similar areas as cocaine, so any exposure to sugar eventually leads to someone consuming sugar at all times"

I think it's much more likely that people, in general, imprint sexual preferences around the time that they are becoming sexual in their teens, and that doesn't change much as they age.

Religion in the US tends to focus on "any exposure to porn makes you an addict," which is why I am assuming this is what you're trying to imply. If you want to play a semantics game "porn addiction is defined as" then I'd argue that the same people are -true- porn addicts at the same rate that people are -true- sugar addicts. So, not saying they don't exist, but are a significantly lower number of the population than US religions would have you believe.

Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by Shorel on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @04:07PM (#27055003)
Your opinion seems to come from the same school of thought that claimed cannabis consumption would surely lead to harder and harder drugs.

In fact, I have experienced the opposite: I do not enjoy any kind of "ugly", much less "extreme" porn. It turns me off.

The simplest kind for me, missionary position, or a girl alone, and that's it.

Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by throwaway1492 on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @09:12PM (#27044923)
I have a dead post in this thread for basically the same thing, very odd reaction I don't understand.
Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by Viliam1234 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @05:32PM (#27056079)
> it reduces the drive to seduce

Are you suggesting that the solution to dead bedrooms is increasing "drive to seduce" of the ones who complain?

I thought that many of them already have high drive that their partners don't reciprocate.

Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by AtlasBarfed on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @10:21PM (#27045439)
Stress is higher across the board as the middle class is wrung out of the economy and the gilded age begins again.

Even if it isn't fight-or-flight stress inducement, sheer business and exhaustion are also undeniably up.

All one has to do is look at the laundry list of economic differences (housing, health care, education, salary, etc) between the current generations and the boomers.