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Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by thepasswordis on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @02:05PM (#27040590)
>Which is basically the exact definition of codependence.

Well okay I suppose that the people I'm talking about, in their 50+ year relationships would describe their love for their partner as a type of addiction, but what you might be missing there is: that is a joke, and they are being cute.

If we're redefining romantic devotion as an "addiction" then I think we have officially lost the plot.

Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by void_mint on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @02:19PM (#27040827)
You're kind of just arguing past the people in this thread ("these relationships in my life are healthy and not codependent, so codependence is not a problem in relationships"). I would also argue that your takes offer the same "armchair psychoanalysis" you're arguing against, fwiw.

> If we're redefining romantic devotion as an "addiction" then I think we have officially lost the plot.

No one is redefining anything. This term is poorly defined. Codependence is not "romantic devotion". "Romantic devotion" should not be codependence.

Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by thepasswordis on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @02:23PM (#27040871)
When you use the word "codependent", what do you mean?
Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by lovegoblin on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @02:35PM (#27041084)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codependency#Romantic_relation...

> Commonly observable characteristics of codependency are:

> intense and unstable interpersonal relationships

> *inability to tolerate being alone, accompanied by frantic efforts to avoid being alone*

> ...

Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by wizzwizz4 on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @02:37PM (#27041115)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codependency#Individual_dynami...

> A codependent is someone who cannot function on their own and whose thinking and behavior is instead organized around another person, process, or substance.

Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by jamespo on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @02:12PM (#27040704)
Hmm it seems like you're reframing things to shore up your argument