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Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by tom_mellior on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @07:38AM (#27036470)
> our teacher asked all of the women

Sounds like a pretty sexist thing to do. The same question can be asked without putting women on the spot. "If you were to buy a diamond, what would you rather choose?"

Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by Sakos on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @08:30AM (#27036848)
He asked that way because it's irrelevant what the man would choose in the case that he's buying it for a woman (which is generally the case). If a majority of women prefer "real" diamonds, there's no way he's going to use his preference over hers for something this important. Women's preferences determine diamond buying behavior on the market. If you want to make a difference, you have to start there.
Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by NikolaNovak on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @07:40AM (#27036483)
My initial instinct agreed with you,but I then wondered if there would actually be a relevant gender difference in answers.

In western culture, still today I think,majority of men would be buying and majority of women would be receiving diamonds. It would be interesting if this affects answers. Would a buyer go for more practical cheaper option while receiver goes for more expensive traditional options? Or a different split completely , or none? I think it'd be a fascinating exercise.

Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by vulpesx2 on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @07:49AM (#27036553)
Same reaction. I've anecdotally asked this same question: "man-made or natural diamonds?" to my friends in the past – mostly because I can't get past the ethical concerns, but wanted to understand the other side.

I found majority of my men friends argued it's the same diamond without the ethical concerns if you go man-made, while majority of my women friends chose natural (reasons included social pressure, the story, and so on).

Anecdotes aren't proof. But perhaps there is something to looking at this from a gendered (proxy for giving vs. receiving?) lens.

Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by frockington1 on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @08:19AM (#27036763)
As a male giving a ring, I bought a real one. Logic was that it was cheaper and better quality once you get over ~1-1.25 carats. If lab made wants to compete more meaningfully they'll need to get better at the engagement ring size diamonds which I'm sure they will with time
Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by aquadrop on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @09:15AM (#27037215)
They are both real.
Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by tom_mellior on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @09:01AM (#27037092)
I would expect there to be a gender difference in the US, due to the social influence of marketing. But I don't think highlighting the difference would help the discussion in any way.

If the professor is making an argument that one choice is clearly the rational choice, and then highlights differences in how different groups make that choice, then they are directly implying that some groups are more irrational than others.

Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by bildung on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @08:03AM (#27036650)
> In western culture

This phenomenon has to be more localized than Western culture (the worldwide diamond consumption hints at it being US-specific?) - I for example don't know anyone who even contemplated buying one for proposing. Granted, this is purely anectotal, but over extended family and workplace colleagues this includes a bunch of milieus.

Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by mNovak on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @04:01PM (#27042201)
Yes I do think it's an american thing to buy a separate engagement ring, having a prominent diamond, in addition to wedding rings (which often don't have diamonds).

My family in Europe doesn't have the whole engagement ring concept.

Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by NikolaNovak on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @08:28AM (#27036824)
Sure; there's definitely going to be a significant time variable then if we want to start getting specific.
Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by Siira on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @07:45AM (#27036533)
Well, there are (lots of) statistical regularities that disfavor specific groups of people. And any one individual could have answered “no,” and thus avoided showing themselves as an idiot who values rocks just because a monopoly prices them exorbitantly.
Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by mensetmanusman on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @08:20AM (#27036770)
This doesn’t help the discussion.
Re:Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever by slightwinder on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @08:26AM (#27036808)
Its more the marketing that is sexist. Marketing for Jewelry (and especially diamonds) usually aims at woman, not men. Men more likely would choose the cost-saving option, because for them there is not much awarness around the pricing of such meaningless "decoration". And this would kinda sabotage the purpose of the question.