Re:Réunion: the postmen of the peaks
by Renaud on Thursday May 06, 2021 @10:37AM
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Oh wow, that's where I come from, at least the Island not that particular remote place.
I'm glad to see this in an international paper. There have been loval and French documentaries since the seventies on those postmen hiking for days across -at the time- dangerous terrain to these isolated communities.
The history of these communities is also interesting as most of them stem from the escape of either slaves into the mountains or poor Europeans who lost had no land or lost theirs when slavery was abolished.
The island is amazing for its scenery, including an active volcano, and its really diverse population.
Re:Réunion: the postmen of the peaks
by ocfnash on Thursday May 06, 2021 @12:09PM
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You lucky thing! My wife and I visited Réunion in 2019 and absolutely loved it.
One thing that struck us was just how much it felt like what it is: a piece of France in the tropics. We had just come from Mauritius which felt quite remote but arriving in Réunion suddenly felt like we were back in Europe.
Re:Réunion: the postmen of the peaks
by wcarss on Thursday May 06, 2021 @11:15AM
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> each one more inaccessible than the next.
This is a little off topic, but: I've always been curious about this rendering of this idea. If each thing is more _____ than the next, then the first thing is the most _____ in the set. It's not particularly impressive, really! You just have an ordered set and you saw the exemplar first.
Conversely, "each more _____ than the last" implies that wherever you started, it's just going to keep getting more and more _____. That's surprising! It's a new discovery each time.
...do I have this wrong? Does anyone have an explanation for why some people prefer 'than the next'?
Re:Réunion: the postmen of the peaks
by mlok on Thursday May 06, 2021 @02:43PM
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This song (language is half French-half Creole) talks about this : Bat'Ker - Le facteur de Mafate : https://youtu.be/HguGsHrc4mU?t=7
It is a song about the Ivrin Pausé, the emblematic former Mafate Postman, who walked 253 000 km on foot (6 times around Earth) for 40 years between 1951 and 1991. He died two years ago in 2019.
I also remember learning that some people who grew up in Mafate have never seen the ocean. This is baffling given that the Island is not that large (40-50km wide)
Re:Réunion: the postmen of the peaks
by Mediterraneo10 on Thursday May 06, 2021 @11:04AM
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I read this article a few days ago, and the question I was asking myself was: how do people in these isolated communities support themselves? The article mentions people even moving back to these communities from the developed parts of the island. Is there some industry there to keep them employed, or do they live purely from benefits?
Re:Réunion: the postmen of the peaks
by fguerraz on Thursday May 06, 2021 @11:18AM
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Benefits play a large part, and many of the costs for logistics (such as bringing in materials by helicopter) are subsidised.
As far as industry goes, there is none. Activities are limited to tourism and hospitality (it's a famous destination) and farming.
Until 2019, each inhabitant was producing their own electricity with solar panels, but since then they are experimenting with a "micro-grid" to try to manage this resource in a collective way.
Re:Réunion: the postmen of the peaks
by seszett on Thursday May 06, 2021 @11:14AM
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They're mostly self-sufficient for food, and then have some revenue from tourism (with lodges, etc) and state employment (civil servants working for the schools, town hall, forestry service, etc).
It's not a high income community and there's a lot of unemployment, but it's not like people are just sitting there waiting for money to fall from the sky.
Re:Réunion: the postmen of the peaks
by anotha1 on Thursday May 06, 2021 @10:59AM
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It's quite amazing to see that people still living so remotely, in 2021. I wonder what most of them are accomplishing by using the mail. Do they have family they communicate with? Maybe children that have grownup and relocated?
Re:Réunion: the postmen of the peaks
by davidw on Thursday May 06, 2021 @02:12PM
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They are all quite accessible via roads, but there are places in SE Oregon and northern Nevada that are very far from anything. ~2 hours to get to a town with a supermarket and medical center.
Re:Réunion: the postmen of the peaks
by peckrob on Thursday May 06, 2021 @12:22PM
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Alaska has lots of places that are only reachable by air or by extremely difficult overland routes that may only be passable during certain times of year.
Supai, Arizona [0] is only accessible by helicopter or an 8-mile hike from the nearest road.
The helicopter "pad" and the hiking trailhead are themselves many miles from the nearest town. Supai is often claimed to be the most remote town in the 48 contiguous states.
I'm glad to see this in an international paper. There have been loval and French documentaries since the seventies on those postmen hiking for days across -at the time- dangerous terrain to these isolated communities.
The history of these communities is also interesting as most of them stem from the escape of either slaves into the mountains or poor Europeans who lost had no land or lost theirs when slavery was abolished.
The island is amazing for its scenery, including an active volcano, and its really diverse population.
One thing that struck us was just how much it felt like what it is: a piece of France in the tropics. We had just come from Mauritius which felt quite remote but arriving in Réunion suddenly felt like we were back in Europe.
This is a little off topic, but: I've always been curious about this rendering of this idea. If each thing is more _____ than the next, then the first thing is the most _____ in the set. It's not particularly impressive, really! You just have an ordered set and you saw the exemplar first.
Conversely, "each more _____ than the last" implies that wherever you started, it's just going to keep getting more and more _____. That's surprising! It's a new discovery each time.
...do I have this wrong? Does anyone have an explanation for why some people prefer 'than the next'?
'Like "I could care less", That means you do care, At least a little'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw
Of course, it's impossible mathematically for each element to be bigger than all its neighbours, for N > 1, but it's OK as a figure of speech.
It is a song about the Ivrin Pausé, the emblematic former Mafate Postman, who walked 253 000 km on foot (6 times around Earth) for 40 years between 1951 and 1991. He died two years ago in 2019.
I also remember learning that some people who grew up in Mafate have never seen the ocean. This is baffling given that the Island is not that large (40-50km wide)
As far as industry goes, there is none. Activities are limited to tourism and hospitality (it's a famous destination) and farming.
Until 2019, each inhabitant was producing their own electricity with solar panels, but since then they are experimenting with a "micro-grid" to try to manage this resource in a collective way.
It's not a high income community and there's a lot of unemployment, but it's not like people are just sitting there waiting for money to fall from the sky.
Supai, Arizona [0] is only accessible by helicopter or an 8-mile hike from the nearest road.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supai,_Arizona
https://fernweh.photo/2016/11/19/supai-arizona/
The helicopter "pad" and the hiking trailhead are themselves many miles from the nearest town. Supai is often claimed to be the most remote town in the 48 contiguous states.
Maybe that's why they all look so happy.