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Re:Liberalizing Land Use Regulations: The Case of Houston (2... by photojosh on Monday May 03, 2021 @08:11PM (#27032557)
Sibling comments have provided responses to other aspects, which all also seem right to me.

The proposed land tax in my state has land tax for seniors accrue against the property and is paid upon sale or death.

The objection to this is that it's a "death duty", to which the response is that you did absolutely nothing to help increase that land value. In fact, you worked against increasing efficiency by holding on when the land could be used for more productive purposes.

That's why the Georgist land tax is such a good idea; it taxes you based on the gains that the rest of society generated for you. Whereas a property tax also taxes you for your own investments.

Re:Liberalizing Land Use Regulations: The Case of Houston (2... by abstractbarista on Monday May 03, 2021 @11:04PM (#27033629)
I'd be fine with paying a tax "on the gains that the rest of society generated for you" upon me selling that land to someone else.

Just like capital gains on equities. I don't pay until I realize. I'm happy to pay some property tax in the meantime to keep gov't services running in the area.

But any other method is terrifying to me and makes me start thinking "What super rural state can I move to in retirement to buy a nice parcel and be seriously left alone these days?"

Re:Liberalizing Land Use Regulations: The Case of Houston (2... by rcpt on Monday May 03, 2021 @11:34PM (#27033822)
With equities you're helping the economy by keeping your money invested in our companies. We need investors capital to remain competitive and we should incentivze you to stay invested as long as possible.

With land you're continually depriving the local community of the space they need to live and work. Every hour spent commuting past your yard is an hour wasted. You should continually pay for the privilege of exclusive access to an in demand part of the nation.

Re:Liberalizing Land Use Regulations: The Case of Houston (2... by sagarm on Monday May 03, 2021 @11:58PM (#27033925)
Or put more simply: land ownership is a form of consumption. Stock ownership is not.
Re:Liberalizing Land Use Regulations: The Case of Houston (2... by photojosh on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @08:03PM (#27057511)
> I'm happy to pay some property tax in the meantime to keep gov't services running in the area.

That's precisely what this is though? Do keep in mind that the for land tax proposals suggest it replace at least a portion of income tax.

> upon me selling that land to someone else. Just like capital gains on equities.

But with your equities investments you don't get any personal gain until you sell. When you hold land, you're benefiting from it the whole time. We're not talking about only the financial benefits from value appreciation, but rather in the main the benefits that you get from society from having the land.

Re:Liberalizing Land Use Regulations: The Case of Houston (2... by jjav on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @09:03PM (#27044870)
> you did absolutely nothing to help increase that land value

That's pretty unfair. People who lived a lifetime in that house did contribute their bit to making the area thrive and become more valuable by keeping the place nice, being good neighbors etc.

If you think that doesn't contribute at all, consider the opposite. If they lived there for decades and let the house go to ruin and were belligerently antisocial all the time, that drives away nicer people and helps turn the neighborhood into a bad place.