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Re:Is Dogecoin Capped? by arcticbull on Sunday May 02, 2021 @11:53PM (#27021457)
The price of BTC will continue to rise as long as people believe that it can become a currency or respected asset class in the future -- but only so long as that doesn't happen. Treated as a currency, if folks actually started to spend it, velocity would go up and its value would inflate away with no central authority to jump in and help.

As an asset, at some point, all the money that will go into it will go into it, and it won't grow anymore, the get-rich-quick game will be over, and people will start to sell, and the price will crater. This can even by triggered by the $30 billion dollars in new money required to pay miners each year.

LN is perfect because unless you squint it's a plausible attempt to solve some of the limitations of the underlying asset.

But here in reality, opening and closing a single LN channel for everyone on earth would take over 150 years. It would cost 1/3 of a trillion dollars in transaction fees. If you broadcast an old wallet state you'll lose your coins. If any intermediate node goes down, it'll lock up your funds. It suffers from terrible illiquidity.

The same number of channels now as 3 years ago. Usage is not growing. It's not a viable solution. It is, however, great distraction.

Just 18 more months!

Re:Is Dogecoin Capped? by randomhodler84 on Monday May 03, 2021 @04:22AM (#27022752)
Check out strike app. It’s an lightning based $US denominated peer to peer payment app (ala Venmo and cash app) and lightning wallet (allows paying lightning invoices). Multiple country (eventually all, as it relies on BTC LN network for settlement). It’s as easy to use as cash app, and doesn’t even mention bitcoin at all. No sir, not 18 months. There is innovation everywhere.
Re:Is Dogecoin Capped? by arcticbull on Monday May 03, 2021 @04:49AM (#27022876)
That actually addresses none of my criticisms of LN though. Why would I want to pay $20-40 to open a channel to obtain the same functionality I get free of charge from my existing dollar denominated Cash App, Cash App? Not to mention when I do, I don't have to pay taxes on every transaction. This is another worse solution, except with crypto.
Re:Is Dogecoin Capped? by randomhodler84 on Monday May 03, 2021 @05:45PM (#27031133)
You didn’t check out the app! There are no lightning channel establishment costs to the user (it’s submarine swaps, server side) The behavior is identical to cash app. It’s also all USD and there are no tax implications (explicitly mentioned in the app). It literally solves all of your concerns.

It’s indistinguishable from cash app to the user. Except that it works internationally and very low fees. It’s better solution than cash app but with crypto (abstracted from the user).

Re:Is Dogecoin Capped? by arcticbull on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @05:18PM (#27043029)
Wait lol, why is Bitcoin involved at all? You literally have to deposit your cash into their un-insured custodial account, then they move it around internally. They could just move database entries around on their own servers. They just need to keep a liquidity pool on both sides for the (likely very few) international transfers that happen, and settle up on a rolling basis with a $20 wire transfer. No bitcoin necessary lol.

I mean they don't even allow anyone else to connect to their lightning nodes.

[edit] oh I get it, they don't want to register as money transmitters haha, it's just to avoid regulation.

Re:Is Dogecoin Capped? by randomhodler84 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @05:53PM (#27056314)
They are not avoiding regulation at all — they are avoiding legacy money transmission networks! They are regulated because they transmit money in the US (KYC/AML etc).

It’s using the Lightning Network to replace traditional interbank networks like Swift. Or ACH (at least for outgoing payments) If you don’t see this as a valuable thing, I’m sorry. It also allows arbitrary payments to lightning invoices denominated in USD, you can pay any user of the app, or any lightning invoices.

You don’t need to connect to lightning nodes - it is a network and if you need to route through them, it will.

Why bitcoin? Because they don’t need to maintain a liquidity pools and use swift to balance the USD pools. They can use cheap LN payments to instead of swift for settlement. Note that LN is unfairly cheap to use. An order cheaper than swift.

Re:Is Dogecoin Capped? by maclured on Monday May 03, 2021 @03:58AM (#27022649)
I don't think so. Once people realise they can buy real stuff with cryptos without being on the darknet (obligatory mention to particl), they'll see that they actually are a real. useful currency that doesn't need to be converted back to fiat.