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Re:Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at ... by chestervonwinch on Sunday May 02, 2021 @03:57PM (#27018466)
Can you explain why this is a dark pattern? How does slack benefit from you using the native app vs. the web app?
Re:Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at ... by rapnie on Sunday May 02, 2021 @06:07PM (#27019509)
Slack app has 4 trackers, requests 21 permissions on Android. Harder to block trackers, while their more tech-oriented audience probably uses browser adblockers more often.

https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/com.Slack/l...

Re:Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at ... by chestervonwinch on Sunday May 02, 2021 @09:45PM (#27020819)
Aha! This makes sense. So basically, on native, there's lessened ability to leverage browser extension ecosystems to block ads and tracker scripts?
Re:Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at ... by milofeynman on Sunday May 02, 2021 @07:10PM (#27019923)
As an engineering manager in an unrelated field... this could also be a way to not have to support a feature on X platform because I don't have the resources to make it work on every possible mobile browser. Or the mobile browsers don't support X feature and I don't want to (or can't) spend the resources to make it work there, QA it there etc. It's not something likely to be able to curb with regulations.
Re:Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at ... by chestervonwinch on Sunday May 02, 2021 @09:40PM (#27020799)
I do not think this is a dark pattern. I don't see any exploitation or misrepresentation.

I think we should be careful to distinguish between exploitation / malicious intent vs. airing of grievances of about UI/UX feature completeness.

Re:Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at ... by jackson1442 on Sunday May 02, 2021 @04:13PM (#27018604)
I mean I personally keep Slack on my Dock since it's open pretty frequently. This integrates it even more into my workflow since I can quickly check and see if I have any unreads/etc. making it more grating to switch to another chat app. Maybe it's not a "dark pattern" but it certainly is a method to increase adoption.
Re:Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at ... by lima on Sunday May 02, 2021 @07:01PM (#27019872)
You can do this with a browser like Chrome by creating a shortcut with "Open As Window".
Re:Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at ... by wolpoli on Sunday May 02, 2021 @04:36PM (#27018770)
One major benefit of native app over web app is their ability to send notifications to get the user's attention.
Re:Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at ... by lima on Sunday May 02, 2021 @04:52PM (#27018893)
Web apps can send notifications just fine, even in the background.
Re:Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at ... by ericwood on Sunday May 02, 2021 @07:48PM (#27020144)
This is not the case on iOS: https://caniuse.com/notifications
Re:Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at ... by cma on Sunday May 02, 2021 @05:10PM (#27019061)
I don't know that they do, but they could potentially read your local files as part of telemetry, gps, nearby wifi network ssids and MAC addresses, etc.