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Re:How I Became a Libertarian by avereveard on Sunday May 02, 2021 @10:35AM (#27015654)
Because you get some basic services back, like roads.

Imagine the mess that are ISP peering agreements but for private transit. Jesus this community truly lives in a bubble.

Re:How I Became a Libertarian by bm3719 on Sunday May 02, 2021 @10:51AM (#27015777)
Hello, neighbor. I dropped off a bag of groceries for you (food being essential for life). That'll be $500, by the way.

If for some reason you refuse to pay for these basic services, I will then be forced to destroy your livelihood and possibly imprison you.

Re:How I Became a Libertarian by TheColorYellow on Sunday May 02, 2021 @08:28PM (#27020384)
Your neighbor is not the government and has no qualities of what a government has.

Taxation is a necessary form of funding to the entities that are responsible for managing negative externalities.The fact that they have a monopoly on violence is also a boon to society.

Taxation and the state as the primary power are fundamental components to the modern social contract. The onus is on naysayers to rovide proof that a system that lacks these components is better.

Re:How I Became a Libertarian by Ancapistani on Monday May 03, 2021 @01:09AM (#27021805)
> The onus is on naysayers to rovide proof that a system that lacks these components is better.

This is true only if they are arguing another system is better.

I would argue that our current system - including taxation - is immoral. Whether or not it’s “better” by whatever standard you choose to apply has no bearing on that argument.

This is the difference between the deontological and utilitarian perspectives.

Re:How I Became a Libertarian by dennis_jeeves on Sunday May 02, 2021 @11:34AM (#27016138)
lol, that exactly how taxation works. You are forced to pay something which you did not ask for.

Ofcourse the pro-taxation crowd simply does does not understand this - they argue that you did indeed make use of the bag of groceries. Huh? chicken-and-egg really....

Re:How I Became a Libertarian by orwin on Monday May 03, 2021 @09:51AM (#27025058)
I'd rather have police than private militia, but I'm not living in the us so I understand if you rather have the former.

And if you did, i and a bunch of other would pool our money together to order hits on strike breakers. World would be fun again until ww3