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Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by OliverJones on Sunday May 02, 2021 @10:17AM (#27015520)
A question for you, Mr. Jewish hacker, a serious question, if I may.

The Commandment in Genesis 20:10 spells out the Sabbath rule. "But the seventh day is a sabbath to [the holy name]; you shall not do any work — you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns"

There seems to be a streak of moral fairness here: don't work on the seventh day, and don't use your power over others to force them to work either. Everybody enjoys a day of rest, migrant workers and beasts of burden included!

How strong is this sort of ethical argument against hacks like Shabbat elevators?

"By consuming electricy needlessly we compel some electric-utility workers to be on the job, and we fail to give Creation a much-needed tiny bit of rest."

I know there must be some conversation among observant Jews about this kind of thing as it relates to the ancient commandments. How does it go?

Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by TchoBeer on Sunday May 02, 2021 @11:05AM (#27015906)
>There seems to be a streak of moral fairness here: don't work on the seventh day, and don't use your power over others to force them to work either. It's not prohibited for non-jews to work on the sabbath though, it's only prohibited for jews.

>Everybody enjoys a day of rest, migrant workers and beasts of burden included! I actually do think getting an animal or someone else to do shabbat work for you is prohibited except under certain circumstances and following certain restrictions.

>"By consuming electricy needlessly we compel some electric-utility workers to be on the job, and we fail to give Creation a much-needed tiny bit of rest." Don't think god needs to rest.

Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by mtVessel on Sunday May 02, 2021 @11:23AM (#27016035)
> Don't think god needs to rest.

Remind me again what happened on the seventh day?

Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by krapp on Sunday May 02, 2021 @11:18AM (#27016003)
>Don't think god needs to rest.

Except for that one time, you mean.

Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by sevrinsky on Monday May 03, 2021 @11:23AM (#27026266)
This is an excellent question, and one dealt with in Israel. Today, electricity is required for the normal functioning of modern civilization, including for hospitals and security. Once power generation is required for society, all are permitted to benefit from it.

Wikipedia source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_on_Shabbat#Use_of_...