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Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by jiggawatts on Sunday May 02, 2021 @08:38AM (#27014762)
Sodium hydroxide is only dangerous if concentrated. Diluted, and especially if it is mixed with wastewater, it'll just react with the various organics to form soap-like chemicals.

If anything, it'll help clean your sewage pipes!

PS: Most draincleaners are just a concentrated NaOH mixture. Consumers pour them down their drain all the time and nobody worries about this either...

Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by cortesoft on Sunday May 02, 2021 @12:13PM (#27016418)
My plumber always tells me never to use drain cleaners, so I wouldn’t say nobody worries about it...
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by throwawayboise on Sunday May 02, 2021 @02:51PM (#27017784)
Your plumber tells you to never use something that might result in you not needing his services? Imagine that!
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by spijdar on Sunday May 02, 2021 @02:55PM (#27017829)
Devil's advocate: the back of those drain cleaner solutions make a point that the solution should never sit or pool in any surface or pipe. You have to run water and chase it down so it doesn't corrode the pipes. I know where I live some of the pipes have "flow issues" because of bad design, and if there was already a partial blockage I can see drain cleaner corroding the pipes...

We just mechanically clean them out ourselves, anyway.

Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by throwawayboise on Sunday May 02, 2021 @03:46PM (#27018359)
Maybe if you have metal drain pipes. They sell the stuff in plastic bottles. If you have PVC drain pipes, it isn't going to disolve them.
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by pfranz on Sunday May 02, 2021 @03:17PM (#27018045)
If you ask them why they say its because it'll often dissolve the pipes before the blockage. Most of the trades people I talk to aren't looking to maximize their work. I've had them turn down jobs for being too gross and I don't blame them.

They'll generally use a snake/auger. Home Depot sells a basic one for $15. The beefier, further reaching ones cost more. Or, for smaller jobs, there are single-use plastic snakes.

Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by Spivak on Sunday May 02, 2021 @01:17PM (#27016943)
You should avoid drain cleaners because in high concentrations they corrode metal.

The compound is fine in your dishwasher because it will fully react and neutralize in your plastic or coated metal dishwasher casing.

Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by gallexme on Sunday May 02, 2021 @12:58PM (#27016755)
But u happily eat it on pretzels? There's no issue in low concentrations
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by spijdar on Sunday May 02, 2021 @02:49PM (#27017764)
People most certainly don't eat sodium hydroxide on their pretzels anymore than they eat raw egg in their cakes. Coating pretzels with lye before baking causes a chemical reaction that consumes the lye. You really, really shouldn't ingest any amount of lye, lest it react with the inside of your squishy organic matter like the surface of pretzel dough...
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by martey on Sunday May 02, 2021 @01:32PM (#27017071)
Sodium hydroxide (NaOH) is lye, which shouldn't be consumed. Pretzel salt is sodium chloride (NaCL).
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by CRConrad on Sunday May 02, 2021 @05:52PM (#27019395)
In German, I think their full name is Laugenbrezel. The full name may not be much used[1] colloquially, because it's implied -- but bread rolls made the same way are definitely called Laugenbrötchen.

"Lauge" is German for "lye". They're called that because they're made with it.

[1]: Though when I switched my phone keyboard to German just now to test it out, the predictive spelling corrector suggested "Laugenbrezel", not "-brötchen", when I'd got as far as "Laugenb".

Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by kortex on Sunday May 02, 2021 @01:38PM (#27017120)
Nope, pretzels are made with lye (NaOH). That's how you get the tasty brown Maillard reaction coating - boil the dough in lye water, then bake, then salt it.
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by skykooler on Sunday May 02, 2021 @09:52PM (#27020856)
Though it doesn't have to be lye - you can use other less caustic bases, such as baking soda.
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by theptip on Sunday May 02, 2021 @01:41PM (#27017141)
Some traditional pretzel/bagel recipes use lye: https://www.bakespace.com/recipes/detail/Soft-Pretzels-using...
Re:Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM by mbernstein on Sunday May 02, 2021 @01:41PM (#27017150)
Lye is used in the creation of pretzels and bagels.