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Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by RobertRoberts on Sunday May 02, 2021 @01:24AM (#27012570)
That is interesting. Would you consider the teachings of Judaism to be more or less authoritative than the biblical/original scriptures? (Sorry I don't know the Jewish phrasing beyond maybe the "the books of Moses")

These things you describe seem like a lot of work with not much result. Do you find it onerous to observe the rules you described?

Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by pugio on Sunday May 02, 2021 @02:27AM (#27012789)
The Orthodox view is that primacy is given to the present Rabbinic interpretations (and extensions) of the law beyond the literal meaning of the Biblical canon (called "Tanakh", which includes the 5 books of Moses as well as the writings of some later sages and prophets).

It is considered heresy to view the Bible/Tanakh as the last word on a law. Instead, the Rabbinic derivations are seen as capturing the underlying intent of biblical law as it may actually manifest in real societal practice.

An example is the famous "take an eye for an eye" statement, which is interpreted Rabinically as referring to monetary compensation for damages. Actually seeking to physically harm someone in accordance to harm done to you is a gross violation of law.

Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by RobertRoberts on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @09:52PM (#27045224)
The "eye for an eye" makes some sense in your description, as it seems to be against other biblical directives.

Where can I look into your statement "It is considered heresy to view the Bible/Tanakh as the last word on a law."?

This is is a new idea that I had not heard before, and it would explain a lot of discussions I have had over the years if I understood it's source. (I keep the sabbath, annual holy days, but not the Jewish laws, so I have had some interesting discussions over the years)

Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by pugio on Thursday May 06, 2021 @04:17PM (#27068573)
Orthodox (and broadly, "Rabbinic") Judaism place equal weight on the "Oral Torah" – a set of evolving traditions and insights which orbit the written books in vast and intricate constellations. To deny the validity of the Oral Torah is considered heretical. If you were to just follow the 5 books, and nothing else, most modern (Orthodox) Jews would say "that's not Judaism [as we understand/perceive it]".

For a bit more info I found this Quora question, which has some good answers: https://www.quora.com/Do-people-of-the-Jewish-faith-interpre... (Only the first 3-4 answers, after which the answers divert into jokes, and a very odd fire 'n brimstone answer.)

Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by RobertRoberts on Thursday May 06, 2021 @11:06PM (#27071653)
Thanks for the Quora link, there is some very interesting comments there.