Hm did I offend? If so my bad! Cheers and enjoy your evening. I do however suspect you have no good points to share and hence your exit from this debate. Your point may have been asinine (I do not plan to walk that back) but that says nothing of you, it wasn't a value judgement on the speaker.

thanks for switching discourse like this. I think the defining problem of politics (and by extension change) nowadays is that people don't call out antisocial behavior anymore. Nearly every society in the past did this one way or another in the non-autocratic parts (farmers villages, soviet,...). Nowadays we have a system run by psycho- and sociopaths (aka the McKinseyan PMC) and we can't get at them because wokeness-brigade tells us: poor things, don't hurt them...