Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO)

Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by rtkwe on Saturday May 01, 2021 @11:44PM (#27012198)

The parts where it goes from 'seriously trying to follow the precepts of my religion' to 'rules lawyering' to me is the stuff like the eruv that encircles most of Manhattan [0] extending the 'private' zone where jews are allowed to carry things on the Sabbath or the decision that you can keep food warm in an oven so long as you take it all out at once so the additional burning that takes place after you open the door (your actions changing the functioning of the machine) is wasted and therefor unintentional (similar to the Sabbath mode on elevators).

[0] https://www.npr.org/2019/05/13/721551785/a-fishing-line-enci...

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Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by pugio on Sunday May 02, 2021 @12:07AM (#27012274)

Both of the cases you mention are still 'seriously trying to follow the precepts' (for many Jews, at least). A lot of (Orthodox) Jews seem to have this idea that an Eruv is this big wink-wink-nod-nod loophole which blatantly circumvents a biblical prohibition through somewhat arbitrary (ie. Lacking in essential religious meaning) legal gymnastics.

This is not the case. An Eruv is actually a beautiful example of the halakhic (translate: "Jewish law") process working as it's supposed to. Its implementation combines sharp hermeneutics with a sensitivity to the needs of real communities and a strong understanding of the meta-halakhic principles which drive the entire process

I'm not really sure if a sub- comment on HN is the right place to expand on this, but I'm happy to discuss it via some other medium.

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Re:Elevator Sabbath service mode (SHO) by pmiller2 on Sunday May 02, 2021 @12:48AM (#27012432)

> I'm not really sure if a sub- comment on HN is the right place to expand on this, but I'm happy to discuss it via some other medium.

I'm interested in subscribing to whatever that turns out to be.

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