Labor shortage or terrible jobs?

Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by Jweb_Guru on Saturday May 01, 2021 @01:33PM (#27008095)

The subsidies in this case do not exist so that businesses can exploit underpaid workers, though (and are not comparable to something like a rent-controlled apartment, where landlords are just prevented from charging so much that they'll drive out the workforce rather than actively subsidizing with things like food stamps or welfare). They exist because the US is reluctant to let people starve in the streets and die, the fact that you interpret them as an effort to "keep [unproductive] people in the market economy" notwithstanding.

The government bumping up unemployment to the point that people don't have to take certain types of jobs that rely on underpayment for profitability does not contradict that goal, which is why many people are not that sympathetic to small business owners complaining about it.

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Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by Noumenon72 on Sunday May 02, 2021 @01:19AM (#27012546)

Employment is an explicit goal of the US welfare system. It's not supposed to keep you from starving if you don't work. That's why you are limited to three months of food stamps every three years unless you are working.

I do see rent control as directly comparable. Government observes a matrix of incomes and prices determined by self-interest in a market economy. Government determines some are not politically acceptable and modifies them. Now the military pays better than before, NYC rent is cheaper, and low-wage workers are more able to survive. Now people build businesses around contracting for the military, living in NYC, and hiring low-wage workers. If government later changes the payoffs to these activities, it's not the businesses' fault for relying on the prices the government set. Government set those prices to enable those businesses.

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