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Re:Kaspersky believes it found new CIA malware by boomboomsubban on Saturday May 01, 2021 @12:51PM (#27007754)
>indicating you believe it to have been a motivation for non-intervention.

Our first century of nonintervention was unquestionably based on the thought that entangling ourselves in European wars would drain us dry. Saying an element of that doesn't still remain is just incorrect, it is broadly the same idea as "Make America Great Again."

"Much of America" supported it, I never said all.

>If there is no "good" empire, then there is no "evil" empire. You cannot remove moral labels on only one side, yet leave them on the other

Trying to be an empire in itself is evil. Being the "least evil" empire is not something to be proud of.

>Yet I don't seem to recall post WWII US threatening to invade Canada, if we didn't pass copyright laws it likes.

Yet they have done basically that with Mexico and many other South American countries.

>. I don't recall the US capturing Iraq, and hauling off "undesirables* to concentration camps by the millions

Only thousands, while killing many many more.

>. I don't recall the US invading countries, and maintaining control after the fact -- for hundreds of years.

Literally all of America, Puerto Rico, and this ignores that setting up puppet governments and economic domination are also methods of empire building.

>Please stop! Please

No. I see your point of view as accepting the blatant propaganda taught to us our entire life. The US denigrated itself, and just tries to make people think it's noble.

Re:Kaspersky believes it found new CIA malware by bbarnett on Saturday May 01, 2021 @03:43PM (#27009190)
Our first century of nonintervention was unquestionably based on the thought that entangling ourselves in European wars would drain us dry. Saying an element of that doesn't still remain is just incorrect, it is broadly the same idea as "Make America Great Again."

There is a vast difference between "drain america dry" and "stay out of the war to profiteer". Vast. Immense. The motives are entirely different.

I cannot continue this conversation, when you keep making these sorts of assertions. There's no common ground. Nothing we can realistically discuss, for, you aren't even discussing the same things when you reply.

Outside of all of this, bear in mind I'm a Canuck. No, I'm not all "rah-rah America', nor is my viewpoint skewed by propaganda. You guys drive me nuts at times. I frankly view your country as a brother, one I wish well for, yet often sit gobsmacked, and even sad, when you I see how my brother is behaving.

I think you're trying to discuss things, with the view that I'm going to respond to US political talking points. Or perhaps culture viewpoints.

Anyhow.

Have a good one. We're not going to agree here, so there's no point.

Re:Kaspersky believes it found new CIA malware by boomboomsubban on Saturday May 01, 2021 @05:08PM (#27009827)
>There is a vast difference between "drain america dry" and "stay out of the war to profiteer". Vast. Immense. The motives are entirely different.

Besides the political reason stated for doing so, name one difference. Both involve profiting by staying out of the war, and using that money to further your own ambitions.

We are discussing the same things, you just label them differently than I and think that justifies them. Like claiming the US has never invaded and occupied a country for centuries, as if the First Nations somehow wouldn't count.

I hope you also have a nice day.