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Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by conanbatt on Friday April 30, 2021 @06:16PM (#27000160)
If a business closes, lots of people lose employment + business owners become more employment competition. Increasing unemployment wrecks wages.

It is also not free to give unemployment benefits, it requires higher taxation which moves the sustainability bar higher and more businesses close, etc etc.

Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by 8note on Friday April 30, 2021 @08:20PM (#27001449)
This really just raises the question on why employees don't get a share of profits.

They take on all the same risk as owners do

Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by mstratman on Friday April 30, 2021 @08:54PM (#27001735)
Most small businesses require the owner to take significant financial risk, or work for free for years or more.

Each growth stage presents tough choices of additional risk, as well.

An employee doesn't shoulder any of this. There is a world of difference!

Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by heavyset_go on Friday April 30, 2021 @11:00PM (#27002594)
It's because the law and financial system exalt capital at the expense of everyone else. There's no reason that labor couldn't translate into equity.

Also, the current system enforces the artificial scarcity of capital available to those who need to work for a living instead of living off of their assets.

Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by conanbatt on Friday April 30, 2021 @08:32PM (#27001576)
It's certainly not the same risk. If a business goes bust the owners lose capital, the employees lose opportunity cost at worst.
Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by heavyset_go on Friday April 30, 2021 @10:56PM (#27002563)
If a business goes bust, those losses can be written of at tax time. A worker losing their job faces homelessness, the inability to see a doctor or pay for their medications, and hunger.
Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by terragon on Friday April 30, 2021 @11:39PM (#27002835)
To avail the benefit of writing off taxes, the ex-business owner requires future income. Who's to say that he/she won't be unemployed for a long while after devastating their life savings?
Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by heavyset_go on Saturday May 01, 2021 @02:56PM (#27008815)
Then they can get a job. Why are they taking on risks that they can't bear with their investments?
Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by conanbatt on Monday May 03, 2021 @11:35AM (#27026415)
What does write off mean to you? If you lose money the government is not giving you money for that loss.

The vast majority of businesses are small businesses, if they go broke the owner is just as broke as the employees.

Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by pnutjam on Friday April 30, 2021 @06:21PM (#27000206)
You know how people avoid being impacted by a business going bankrupt? They don't take jobs there.

Jobs at more stable places are available and people will take them. The businesses need to fail or be sold.

Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by conanbatt on Friday April 30, 2021 @08:34PM (#27001583)
There will always be businesses on the margin that barely survive, and you want as many of those as possible always to increase employment and wages, even if your world vision is only pro-worker.