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Re:It's your device, you should be able to repair it by overgard on Friday April 30, 2021 @12:49PM (#26995907)
> 'It's your device, ...

Sadly, while that /should/ be true, I'm not sure that on any practical level it is anymore. There's about a 1000 ways the manufacturer, carrier, os developer, etc., can make your device entirely useless without you having much of any recourse, because while they can't physically take the device from you, they can stop providing you service.

Re:It's your device, you should be able to repair it by joshspankit on Friday April 30, 2021 @12:57PM (#26996032)
This is exactly why “Right to repair” rose up to claw that ownership back.

If we don’t create laws, at some point down the road we will go from “not much recourse” to literally none.

What if Apple created a phone with no ports that was filled with epoxy as the last step in assembly? What if powering it on at all meant logging in to your apple account?

They could in every meaningful way take that device away from you at the run of a single function.

Re:It's your device, you should be able to repair it by scientismer on Friday April 30, 2021 @02:50PM (#26997658)
If that would happen, and it bothers you, just don't buy an Apple phone. Problem solved.
Re:It's your device, you should be able to repair it by joshspankit on Friday April 30, 2021 @03:36PM (#26998233)
If that happens and there are no laws, it will affect more and more products.

Don’t buy a laptop? A car? A building? A slab of wood?

Yes, my examples are borderline unreasonable, but we’re already at the level of unreasonable products being licensed instead of owned (Tractors, DSLRs).

Re:It's your device, you should be able to repair it by scientismer on Friday April 30, 2021 @07:17PM (#27000805)
Unless your country goes full socialism and there is only the government as provider for all those things, competing companies can provide you with repairable products. If people actually want them (which I doubt), why shouldn't companies provide them?

With the tractors and DSLRs, again, if you don't like their licensing model, don't buy them. If nobody buys them, they will probably change their licensing model.

Re:It's your device, you should be able to repair it by joshspankit on Friday April 30, 2021 @08:45PM (#27001668)
It's more complicated than that and is threatening to get even more complicated.

Companies continue to grow larger than countries in both cash flow and influence.

Re:It's your device, you should be able to repair it by scientismer on Saturday May 01, 2021 @03:56AM (#27004294)
That may be so, but you can still buy from the competition.
Re:It's your device, you should be able to repair it by joshspankit on Saturday May 01, 2021 @10:36AM (#27006665)
I feel like you’re either missing critical information about how companies can make that impossible, or you know and you’re “doing a bit”.

Let me say this outright: Sometimes the “competitors” are working together to maintain a monopoly.

Re:It's your device, you should be able to repair it by scientismer on Saturday May 01, 2021 @01:57PM (#27008331)
If they do that, they open a door for another competitor.

Of course it is all a bit more complicated. But by and large it works.