Re:Union's evidence in Amazon vote 'could be grounds for ove...
by Dobbs on Thursday April 29, 2021 @06:55AM
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In the article it was made very clear that this wasn't about propaganda, what is being alleged is that they have evidence that Amazon threatened and coerced people into voting against the union.
Propaganda may or may not be dirty, but threats of firings, plant closure, etc if the Union passes is illegal. Very very different.
Re:Union's evidence in Amazon vote 'could be grounds for ove...
by refurb on Thursday April 29, 2021 @07:43AM
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Did you read the comment I was replying to? It wasn’t talking about threats it was talking about Amazon’s anti-union campaign.
Re:Union's evidence in Amazon vote 'could be grounds for ove...
by jiminymcmoogley on Thursday April 29, 2021 @07:23AM
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Lots of propaganda and dark pattern stuff I saw with my own two eyes used in the campaign, and now possibly even coercion (compulsion to act involuntarily under threat of force) = people may or may not have voted rationally in their best interest despite or because of all the propaganda. my opinion on the result irrelevant either way. in fact i dont even need to mention it, it's that irrelevant. the outcome of the election itself was compromised and there is no magic time travel button to find out what would have happened if we did it over. therefore we must take the results at face value and just really really hope as hard as we can that this is the same outcome as it would have been otherwise
Not lots of propaganda and dark pattern etc etc = people rationally voted for their best interest, again regardless of my opinion on the result
Either we treat elections like they matter and dont unduly manipulate the outcome or we don't. One doesn't get to pick and choose which elections are "questionably carried out"
Voting doesn't go the way I think it should = people were clearly swayed by propaganda and didn't vote in their best interest
Either we treat people like adults and trust their voting or we don't. One doesn't get to pick and choose which voting is "right".