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Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by ianai on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @03:55PM (#26960688)
Family of mine just had to install a cistern after their well needed to be extended-it’s already been extended. Ie there’s just no more water there I think or something.

Water in the southwest has obviously always been something to take seriously. But as someone who’s always lived here, this seems much more pressing than anytime in the past. Wish this was a problem society could and would tackle as a “group effort”.

Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by milkytron on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @05:47PM (#26962106)
> Wish this was a problem society could and would tackle as a “group effort”.

From a macro level, it has been. There have been water pacts in the west for nearly a century. But these will likely need to change in order to address the severity of the issue. I'm curious how these will be changed in the future, it seems like there might need to be new legislation sooner rather than later.

Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by nradov on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:45PM (#26964414)
Ultimately I think we'll need to have state governments seize those water rights through eminent domain (with fair market value payments), then institute an auction system to allocated only a sustainable level of water extraction. The problem today is that water prices are fixed below the market rate and fail to account for externalities so water users have little incentive to conserve.
Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by Arrath on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @07:59PM (#26963701)
Those water pacts are generally very out of date and haven't adapted to modern populations and usage volumes, though. Change must come.
Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by bobthepanda on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @01:36AM (#26965990)
Isn‘t there also an issue where water pacts were drawn up during what appears to have been a rainier period of time?
Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by PaulDavisThe1st on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:03PM (#26964138)
Most the US southwest seems to be organized around the concept of water rights, typically measured in acre-feet.

Even though this assignment of rights is rather old and has a multitude of problems related to the way it doesn't describe current usage patterns, that's not the biggest problem:

it doesn't help to have the water rights to 300 acre-feet on your property if that water doesn't exist!

Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by derekp7 on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @07:56PM (#26963677)
Here's the other lovely thing, is the deeper you go with a well the worse the water quality. Deep water could have been sitting there for thousands of years and may have a higher radon concentration.
Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by nradov on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:35PM (#26964338)
On the other hand, deeper water is less likely to be contaminated by toxic waste seeping down from the surface.
Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by ianai on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:42PM (#26964390)
And the radioactive stuff can be filtered out locally much more easily (activated carbon).
Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by linuxftw on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @08:29PM (#26963911)
We are solving it as a society. You're free to move somewhere there's more water, or you can not have any.
Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by hedora on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @03:35AM (#26966763)
Tell that to Intel. They’re building a fab in Phoenix.
Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by linuxftw on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @08:56AM (#26968777)
That's up to the people that live in Phoenix. If they want Intel to deplete their aquifer, that's their choice.
Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by omegaworks on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:05PM (#26964149)
Ah yes, the Ben Shapiro climate solution: "Just sell your house and move somewhere else!"

Who, pray tell, will buy a house with no water?

Re:Millions of Groundwater Wells Could Run Dry by ianai on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:34PM (#26964333)
That’s also not going to work if we’re talking about farmland. Not every parcel of land is exchangeable for every other. It’s one thing to point at a city and say “fewer people could live there” and another to point at farmland and say society won’t feel an impact from not growing the crops on it.