Driving 1000 miles per day is anywhere between 12 and 14 hours solid driving. You are the outlier of outliers. On a trip that length, hitting any traffic is likely to slow you down more than having to recharge your vehicle.

Maybe an electric vehicle on it's current form isn't going to work for you with a regular 1000 mile per day trip, but you're at least 15 years off _new_ petrol vehicle sales being banned, so second hand ones are around for another 25 at least.

As an aside, this individualist respond of "well i can't do a 1000 mile road trip in one sitting" is why these vehicles are being phased out by legislation, because people won't even consider the _smallest_ changes to their driving habits without being forced to.

There's something romantic about a long road trip, unbroken and unplanned. Call it an outlier experience, but everyone should have one once. It's American to the core. You get in the seat and head out, first watching the familiar pass away. The first time your GPS says stay on this road for 400 miles, that's when the trip starts. That's when you accept it. You'll see whatever comes - open ranges, mountains, trains that span longer than you can see, bison that wander onto the empty road. You'll listen to whatever is on the radio. Nobody will tell you what to do next. A spirit of freedom comes flooding back, and you remember that you aren't just an ape in a box working for the next planned fun, but a human, a natural explorer, and you feel a bit more like yourself. Music is awesome. You spontaneously pull over to snap a picture and take a leak, just because you can, and nobody is around anyway. And then it hits you - bliss. Quietness. No more inner voice. Just sounds, sights, and sensations. The wind. The rest of the road trip after that is a bit different, and the passing of time doesn't matter as much. It's like when you go on vacation - it's not until the third day when you really settle in. For these trips, sure you're trying to get somewhere, but that's not what it's about. You could fly if you wanted to. If you legislate drudgery into this, or take away from the experience in any way, you're robbing others of something special, even if it's not your thing. EVs don't cut it yet - they require more frequent and longer stops and more overall planning. But I hope they improve because their silence is nice.

I did a 477 mile (each way) round trip last summer with no serious planning. Took 2 Supercharger stops each way in decent shopping areas, around 35 min each. I would have used at least one of those to eat lunch anyway, so the overall losses were minimal. Also, the whole point of a “road trip” is to stop occasionally and see things, so having these short breaks made the trip more pleasant.

Plus the sheer nerd excitement of watching my car drink 250KW on the app while I ate a meal. There’s nothing technically exciting about gas stations.

I can relate to this beautiful sentiment. I was reminded of CGP grey's video on the subject. I think you're right they will get there in a decade. In a rational world we could've had a carbon tax or actual legit biofuels, but no one wants to pay more for something they can't see.

These long road trips infact make me feel guily about driving an ICE car, that I had to make a tiny mess in the atmosphere for one tiny ape to get this amazing feeling.

1000 miles in a day is normal in the Midwest. Not common, but many people out here do such a thing on vacation. Flying a family that far is more expensive and uses most of a day so you may as well drive and have a way to get around once there.

> Certainly not. For example on a cross country trip the year before the pandemic I drove my regular car. 400 miles between fuel stops, 5-10 minute stop to fill up and hit the bathroom, ready for another 400 miles. Very easy to do over 1000 miles per day with no worries.

I highly doubt this is most people. I can do 200miles at best before I need a 10-15 minutes break. For woman/kids you are looking at 100 miles per break and more minutes per break.

Yes but even with kids you aren't stopping for 45 minutes just to go to the bathroom.

Charging batteries is a SIGNIFICANT time sync. You can justify it however you like, but it's still there.

It's not a fair comparison to look at a vehicle that has less than 100 miles of range and call it bad for road trips. That car is only meant for commuting. Clearly you will spend a lot of time charging such a small battery with a slow charger. The way to do a longer drive with an electric car is to have several hundred miles of range and use DC fast chargers.

Depending on where you live, going on a long road trip can sometimes become a sudden necessity. If I still lived in a hurricane zone, for example, I wouldn’t go anywhere near an EV except as a second car.

why do you keep comparing a car with 400 mile range to your ev with 80 mile range, that doesn't even have dc fast charging? Its not even a comparison, obviously you wouldnt drive your car designed for daily commutes, you should be comparing to an Ev actually meant to drive 200+ miles, teslas, mache, taycan etc.

> why do you keep comparing a car with 400 mile range to your ev with 80 mile range, that doesn't even have dc fast charging?

I'm not doing a theoretical comparison, these are cars I can afford and actually own right now.

> you should be comparing to an Ev actually meant to drive 200+ miles, teslas, mache, taycan

I can't responsibly afford a tesla, mache or taycan, so not going to compare those.

I can easily afford a sub-20K regular car though and it lets me do 1000+ mile day road trips.